Posts: 6,151
Threads: 435
Reputation:
44718
Joined: May 2015
At what point do the Bengals need to move on from Hill and give Gio more of the feature back role? Hell, I dont even know if Gio is the answer. All I know is that the running game has been completely unproductive.
Hill has honestly been terrible the past couple of seasons and has looked like crap so far this year. It looks like he is running with weights attached to his ankle. All he does is jump cut and get stuffed at the line.
I just dont know what happened to him. Its remarkable that drop off that hes had since his rookie year.
I thought our offensive line was the problem with the run game, especially after the Jets debacle, but after today im just not so sure. There were openings that were there, but its almost like Hill avoided the hole and jump cut around it. I just dont get it.
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
Posts: 4,829
Threads: 107
Reputation:
22659
Joined: May 2015
Location: An undisclosed biological research facility
(09-18-2016, 07:11 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: All I know is that the running game has completely unproductive.
Hill has looked like crap so far this year.
Psst...OL probs.
Posts: 1,689
Threads: 113
Reputation:
2790
Joined: May 2015
Don't say that.
People will call you a troll!
Posts: 401
Threads: 8
Reputation:
1471
Joined: Nov 2015
Lol.
To be honest, Hill didnt look bad at all. I saw him take a lot of negative yardage back to the line of scrimmage, sometimes even gains.
Posts: 1,356
Threads: 23
Reputation:
3778
Joined: May 2015
(09-18-2016, 07:17 PM)Beaker Wrote: Psst...OL probs.
Center and Right Guard are a train wreck! 
Posts: 6,151
Threads: 435
Reputation:
44718
Joined: May 2015
(09-18-2016, 07:19 PM)Gohards Wrote: Lol.
To be honest, Hill didnt look bad at all. I saw him take a lot of negative yardage back to the line of scrimmage, sometimes even gains.
He has looked awful.
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
Posts: 6,935
Threads: 104
Reputation:
33223
Joined: May 2015
Location: Cinci Burbs
Shoulda drafted DeCastro 
“Don't give up. Don't ever give up.” - Jimmy V
Posts: 1,480
Threads: 185
Joined: May 2015
(09-18-2016, 07:11 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: At what point do the Bengals need to move on from Hill and give Gio more of the feature back role? Hell, I dont even know if Gio is the answer. All I know is that the running game has completely unproductive.
Hill has honestly been terrible the past couple of seasons and has looked like crap so far this year. It looks like he is running with weights attached to his ankle. All he does is jump cut and get stuffed at the line.
I just dont know what happened to him. Its remarkable that drop off that hes had since his rookie year. He just inst producing in the running game though.
I thought our offensive line was the problem with the run game, especially after the Jets debacle, but after today im just not so sure. There were openings that were there, but its almost like Hill avoided the hole and jump cut around it. I just dont get it.
Everyone thought the duo backs is a good thing, honestly I think it hurts more than not. Takes a bit of time to get a rythm going in a game.. in and out sometimes, takes that away... I like Gio speed example today when he got a great block today.. I can't remember who gave the great block but it was a great one.
Posts: 750
Threads: 10
Reputation:
1575
Joined: May 2015
Location: Kansas City
Paul Alexander is the only coach left from the "Years of regular failure" that is left on this coaching staff. that should be your first clue.
Posts: 750
Threads: 10
Reputation:
1575
Joined: May 2015
Location: Kansas City
(09-18-2016, 07:22 PM)Marlon23 Wrote: Everyone thought the duo backs is a good thing, honestly I think it hurts more than not. Takes a bit of time to get a rythm going in a game.. in and out sometimes, takes that away... I like Gio speed example today when he got a great block today.. I can't remember who gave the great block but it was a great one.
zeitler was the guard who got that particular block that freed gio upfield.
Posts: 15,116
Threads: 221
Reputation:
147378
Joined: May 2015
Other than a 15 yard run, Gio had 2 yards on 4 carries.
It's an o-line problem, not a Hill problem.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
Posts: 1,480
Threads: 185
Joined: May 2015
(09-18-2016, 07:23 PM)WildCat Wrote: zeitler was the guard who got that particular block that freed gio upfield.
Thanks that was a great hit... and he was stunned a bit afterwards.. lol.. rep.
Posts: 5,802
Threads: 31
Reputation:
24131
Joined: May 2015
O-line has to create A GAP BEFORE ANY BACK WILL EVER SUCCEED
Posts: 16,095
Threads: 251
Reputation:
184022
Joined: May 2015
Location: Ohio
All I know is you're not going to win many games with 30 yards rushing ! And I don't think it's just one thing that's broken.
The O-line is a major factor for sure. But some of it is on RB's as well. Play calling is probably a factor to.
But the fact is we haven't got 100 yards rushing in our first 2 games combined - pitiful. And they have to fix that.
Not sure what the answer is ?
Posts: 5,559
Threads: 82
Reputation:
25610
Joined: May 2015
Location: Florida
(09-18-2016, 07:17 PM)Beaker Wrote: Psst...OL probs.
Yeah, it's not the backs. The OL isn't blocking well. It was a problem last year and hasn't improved this year.
Plus, Zampese seems to think of the running game as an afterthought or something cause we just don't call enough running plays.
Having a good running game brings a number of benefits, none of which we are enjoying so far this season.
Posts: 6,151
Threads: 435
Reputation:
44718
Joined: May 2015
(09-18-2016, 07:30 PM)BengalChris Wrote: Yeah, it's not the backs. The OL isn't blocking well. It was a problem last year and hasn't improved this year.
Plus, Zampese seems to think of the running game as an afterthought or something cause we just don't call enough running plays.
Having a good running game brings a number of benefits, none of which we are enjoying so far this season.
I have a problem with Hills running style.
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
Posts: 5,559
Threads: 82
Reputation:
25610
Joined: May 2015
Location: Florida
(09-18-2016, 07:19 PM)Gohards Wrote: Lol.
To be honest, Hill didnt look bad at all. I saw him take a lot of negative yardage back to the line of scrimmage, sometimes even gains.
Yeah, you can't pin it on the back when defenders are meeting him in the backfield. That's completely on the OL and the blocking.
Posts: 3,520
Threads: 239
Reputation:
27105
Joined: May 2015
Its the Offensive line, think of it like this, its kind of liking trying to have sex with a woman with her legs closed tightly...kinda hard to hit that hole when there is none
Posts: 1,977
Threads: 0
Reputation:
7390
Joined: Jan 2016
Tbh I think Gio and Hill have been much of a muchness for 2 seasons or so. Gio was great in his Rookie year, as was Hill. I would say both have fallen from the potential they showed in their rookie years for sure.
However, Gio has the ability to take it to the house on any play. Hill doesn't really, he's a bruising back who hasn't been very bruising for a while.
I really like both guys though, it's a shame they aren't proving to the be top end duo that they should be.
Posts: 8,657
Threads: 301
Reputation:
73238
Joined: Jan 2016
Location: Kettering, Ohio
(09-18-2016, 07:31 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I have a problem with Hills running style.
Please elaborate. What exactly don't you like?
|
![[Image: Screenshot-2022-02-02-154836.png]](https://i.ibb.co/db2LNsj/Screenshot-2022-02-02-154836.png)
![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png)
