Bengals meet with mixon

[Au165]

(03-08-2017, 01:22 PM)Whatever Wrote: Pro Day times are usually better than the combine, but that's impressive.

Some had him as low as 4.37 so either way pretty good.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-08-2017, 12:59 PM)Au165 Wrote: He just ran a 4.4 40 at 6'1 228 by the way.

4.4 flat? If so, probably likely he would have ran in the high 4.4's to low 4.5's at the combine. Which is better than Hill and Burkhead. Bernard was in the low 4.5's.

[Au165]

(03-08-2017, 01:43 PM)ochocincos Wrote: 4.4 flat? If so, probably likely he would have ran in the high 4.4's to low 4.5's at the combine. Which is better than Hill and Burkhead. Bernard was in the low 4.5's.

Na, it doesn't move that much. Perine ran a 4.65 at combine and ran a 4.59/4.62 at the Oklahoma pro day. Mixon is a true low 4.4 guy, most expected him to run there based on his speed on tape.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-08-2017, 01:48 PM)Au165 Wrote: Na, it doesn't move that much. Perine ran a 4.65 at combine and ran a 4.59/4.62 at the Oklahoma pro day. Mixon is a true low 4.4 guy, most expected him to run there based on his speed on tape.

It can move that much. Braxton Miller ran a 4.50 at the Combine last year, ran a 4.33 and 4.36 at Ohio St's track. Sure, players have "bad" times at the Combine occasionally, but practically everyone posts better at their pro days than what they actually run.

Btw, when I said high 4.4's to low 4.5's, I meant 4.45-4.54. Saw a few sites that expected his true 40 to be 4.48-4.50. I don't think it's unreasonable to think a 4.40 at pro day track is actually more like 4.46 on football turf.

[Au165]

(03-08-2017, 02:47 PM)ochocincos Wrote: It can move that much. Braxton Miller ran a 4.50 at the Combine last year, ran a 4.33 and 4.36 at Ohio St's track. Sure, players have "bad" times at the Combine occasionally, but practically everyone posts better at their pro days than what they actually run.

Btw, when I said high 4.4's to low 4.5's, I meant 4.45-4.54. Saw a few sites that expected his true 40 to be 4.48-4.50. I don't think it's unreasonable to think a 4.40 at pro day track is actually more like 4.46 on football turf.

He ran it on a turf football field.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-08-2017, 03:28 PM)Au165 Wrote: He ran it on a turf football field.

Oh he did? Even better. Some players don't.

Btw, seems not all scouts have that 4.40 time.
According to Daniel Jeremiah, one scout had him at 4.47.
Which makes sense that timings could be off, these are most often hand times.
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/839539476808388608

[Yojimbo]

(03-08-2017, 01:22 PM)Whatever Wrote: Pro Day times are usually better than the combine, but that's impressive.

Pro days are hand times and combine is electronic. Mayock or Jeremiah said on NFL Network, teams don't put combine 40 numbers on their big board, they use their own hand timed ones.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-08-2017, 03:58 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Pro days are hand times and combine is electronic. Mayock or Jeremiah said on NFL Network, teams don't put combine 40 numbers on their big board, they use their own hand timed ones.

Which is odd because hand times are much more prone to being wrong than electronic times.

[*ochocincos*]

Seems that 4.40 flat 40 was very off.
According to Gil Brandt, the "official" time being given out to all NFL teams for Mixon's pro day is...4.50.
Here is the Twitter statement reflecting that and his other "official" results from his pro day.
https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/status/839552019354378240

[Au165]

(03-08-2017, 04:27 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Seems that 4.40 flat 40 was very off.
According to Gil Brandt, the "official" time being given out to all NFL teams for Mixon's pro day is...4.50.
Here is the Twitter statement reflecting that and his other "official" results from his pro day.
https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/status/839552019354378240

Oklahoma still showing it as a 4.43 on their website, Daniel Jeremiah said one scout had him at 4.37, this is why teams have such discrepancies in guys haha. I guess it doesn't matter, fast guy is fast.

[Jpoore]

(03-08-2017, 12:41 PM)Goalpost Wrote: I'm a pass on him. We went thru a phase where we said 5th round or later on drafting these guys. Since that time we had the Pittsburgh meltdown. Don't we ever learn...or for that matter...doesn't mister second chance Mike Brown ever learn. Surely we can find nice talent in the 2nd or 3rd round with no issues of this type.

Not with his talent. Hes right up there with fournette and cook as best rb in the draft.

(03-08-2017, 01:43 PM)ochocincos Wrote: 4.4 flat? If so, probably likely he would have ran in the high 4.4's to low 4.5's at the combine. Which is better than Hill and Burkhead. Bernard was in the low 4.5's.

4.43-4.47. Some discrepencies.

[Jpoore]

pro daY times 4.43-4.47 40 yard dash. 21 bech press 6 "3/4 228 pounds. 7.00 second 3 cone drill 4.25 20 yard shuttle and a 35 inch vert.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

Mixon received his second and third chances at Oklahoma. The next time he punches a woman, I hope it won't be in Cincinnati with one of your loved ones.

Marvin Lewis has stated he doesn't have the ability, inclination, or time to rehabilitate knuckleheads. Hopefully, the draft decision makers listen to Marvin.

[Lawless_1]

He's the best running back in the draft. Sorry he's not in the choir.

[Jpoore]

(03-09-2017, 12:25 AM)Lawless_1 Wrote: He's the best running back in the draft. Sorry he's not in the choir.

this.

[NATI BENGALS]

He wont make it out of the 2nd.

Trading back with our first and getting an extra 2nd and trading AJMC and getting an extra 2nd could be huge. There is a boatload of talent that will be available in the 2nd.

Wont here me complaining if we take Mixon at 41

[BURROWorBUST]

(03-09-2017, 01:08 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: He wont make it out of the 2nd.

Trading back with our first and getting an extra 2nd and trading AJMC and getting an extra 2nd could be huge. There is a boatload of talent that will be available in the 2nd.

Wont here me complaining if we take Mixon at 41

yeah, 

1. McKinley
2a. Mixon
2b. Elflein

wouldn't upset me at all. 

[*ochocincos*]

(03-08-2017, 08:32 PM)Jpoore Wrote: pro daY times 4.43-4.47 40 yard dash. 21 bech press 6 "3/4 228 pounds. 7.00 second 3 cone drill 4.25 20 yard shuttle and a 35 inch vert.

Here were the "official" numbers given out to all 32 teams from Mixon's pro day...

Gil Brandt Wrote:Official numbers (given to all teams) for Mixon at Oklahoma pro day: 6-0 3/4, 228 lbs 4.50 40 (ran 1x) 35 VJ 7.10 3-cone 4.33 ss 21 lifts

The link is in my earlier comment.

[*psychdoctor*]

(03-08-2017, 10:24 AM)Au165 Wrote: Past actions can't always be used as a predictor of future actions. OJ SImpson didn't kill someone until.....he did. Ray Rice never hit a woman......until he did. Because someone hasn't doesn't mean they won't and because they did doesn't mean they will again. I'd probably argue he is less likely to do it again because he has been through the backlash.

I'll be perfectly honest, I am good either way on the guy. We often times pretend like athletes are supposed to be role models, but the reality is like most people they are deeply flawed and have issues, it's not until it comes out in the media we consider them human.

Actually historic behavior is the BEST predictor of future behavior given available options for predictions.  Mixon may have an excellent NFL career in someplace like New England. But the Bengals FO and coaching staff are enablers. There isn't enough structure and discipline coming from the top down to hold players accountable. Mixon would not be a good fit with Marvin Lewis has Head Coach.

[coachmcneil71]

I'm smelling a trade back going down. It's just beginning to have that feel about it. Mixon may very well be in stripes.

I'm not sure it's a great fit, but there's no denying his ability.