Would you be interested in Josh Gordon?

[TSwigZ]

(03-30-2017, 12:39 PM)TheUberHuber Wrote: Could you pass a drug test?

I'm 25 live near a college campus and I'm a bartender at a casino let's be honest I don't think there's a single day during the year where I'd piss 100% clean. Plus some of the shit I'd be failing for are worse then what JG does so hell yeah sign the guy given the opportunity

[Wes Mantooth]

(03-30-2017, 03:19 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: He's going to be 27 on April 13th and hasn't played a game of football since week 5 of 2014. In those 5 game of the 2014 season Gordon's stat line was...

5 GS, 24 REC, 303 yards, 12.6 avg and 0 TDs

Not bad but a step backwards. Granted he does play for Cleveland but that didn't stop him from performing better in the past.

I didn't feel like I needed to go into more detail of why Gordon is a risky pickup and his issues are well documented so it's not a write off simply because he missed time. It's a write off because he hasn't shown he is dedicated to football and isn't an ounce more reliable today then he was this time last year. It wasn't too long ago he trashed a house with Manziel on a party binge. The only reason anyone is thinking about Gordon is because of something he did in 2013.  From 2014-2016 he did nothing because he couldn't even get on the field. That's dedication!

So he posted a narcissistic post on social media with his shirt off like the rest of the male population that doesn't mean anything. Players have mentioned from time to time the difference in being in shape and being in game shape.  If Hobson posted the same thing about one of our players he'd be called Hobspin and it would've been labeled a fluff piece.

Jungle Noise wants it both ways. First we should cut Pacman because that's the kind of move a no non-sense franchise like the Pats would do but on the flip side let's bring in a guy who has been such a screw up he can't stay eligible to even participate in the NFL. I get the appeal he was awesome at one point but so was Odell Thurman and all the other wasted potential that could never stay dedicated.

I'm already pissed we decided to give Pacman a pass because it feels a lot like the 05-07 years and bringing in Gordon is a step in that direction again.

He's 25 right now. He'll turn 26 before the season. Not sure where you're getting 27 from. Not that it really matters, just wanted to clarify...

He sat out 2 years between college and the pros, and still put up the best season for a rookie WR his first year. I really don't think that rust is that big of a concern.

Fwiw, I don't want him. I'm of the position that we have more than enough skill players.  I just did a double take when I saw the stance that he's done, as in washed up.  And IMHO, Adam Jones makes him look like Mother Teressa. That piece of human garbage is a whole different level, when it comes to valuing character.  One guys has a bunch of positive weed charges, the other is a piece literal trash.

[TKUHL]

He did play good his last pre season. If he can still play at that level fine. I bet a lot of teams and fans will be silently jealous. Besides it's just pot right? He didn't beat a woman, shoot a kid, he's just made an impressive streak of poor choices. So if PAC Man DESERVES another chance according to Mike Brown why shouldn't Gordon. Yes he did hurt his team but he hurt himself the most. Maybe the choirboy experiment is over.

[*bengalfan74*]

(03-30-2017, 12:17 PM)snowy Wrote: Here's a thought: why not reward the stand-up guys you never hear about, instead of touting the ones who are always getting publicity for all the wrong reasons? I'm really tired of all these troublemakers getting so much consideration, no matter how good, young, and/or dumb they are.

They get "consideration" because Mike "cheap" Brown knows he can get them for a bargain. He's always working from the angle of saving money, never forget that. They're looking at Mixon hoping they can get him down the line for a bargain.

And MB fancies himself the "troubled youth whisperer". And the true reason behind the reasons - $$$ If he can snatch Gordon up for chump change it wouldn't surprise me.

We're coming up on 30 seasons under Mikes GM leadership (he still takes a GM pay out for himself) and he still doesn't get it ? And at this point it's safe to say he never will.

[impactplaya]

I think anytime you have a chance to pick up a elite player at a bargain basement price
You look into it .
This is a league dominated by offense.
You can't have too many talented WRS .
Just ask the Pats and Falcons
I could care less what he did as a Brown
It was a toxic lockeroom and guys were there to only get a paycheck
Gordon volunteered to check himself into rehab last August
He finally owned up to he had a problem
Gordon is upgrade to what we have behind AJ
BTW Gordon is everybit as talented as Green
Gordon is a classic Mike Brown kind of player
World has given up on you.but here lad come on to the Bengals
I enjoy giving 2nd chances I believe in redemption

[*ochocincos*]

(03-30-2017, 02:46 PM)McC Wrote: As to the photo, two words--Holy shit.

Hey, we have Ten Chances on the roster.  Gordon's not even halfway there.  And he really can play. 

Can you trust him?  Seems to me, if the Browns let him go, that has to be telling.

I like to think of it more as Nine Lives. You know, with the whole cat connection and all.

[OrlandoBengal]

(03-30-2017, 03:33 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: He's 25 right now. He'll turn 26 before the season. Not sure where you're getting 27 from. Not that it really matters, just wanted to clarify...

He sat out 2 years between college and the pros, and still put up the best season for a rookie WR his first year. I really don't think that rust is that big of a concern.

Fwiw, I don't want him. I'm of the position that we have more than enough skill players.  I just did a double take when I saw the stance that he's done, as in washed up.  And IMHO, Adam Jones makes him look like Mother Teressa. That piece of human garbage is a whole different level, when it comes to valuing character.  One guys has a bunch of positive weed charges, the other is a piece literal trash.

There are guys in Leavenworth who look like Mother Teresa when compared to Adam Jones

[magikod]

He is a talented WR, but he needs to stay clean for us to even consider it.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-30-2017, 11:17 AM)milksheikh Wrote: Would you be interested in Josh Gordon in a trade or picking him up as a free agent?

I'd definitely look at it if he's shown that he's clear and wants to just get back to playing football and not the off the field stuff.

He was a top 5 receiver before his suspension/dilemma.

Imagine a pre-suspension Gordon and A.J. Green, the best WR duo in the game.

Are we leaning to the thug life?

Seriously? That thread almost sounds like it is coming true. We want Mixon, Adam and Gordon on our team?

[magikod]

(03-30-2017, 05:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Are we leaning to the thug life?

Seriously? That thread almost sounds like it is coming true. We want Mixon, Adam and Gordon on our team?

gordon is just a pothead, not really a thug. but i see what you mean.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-30-2017, 05:12 PM)magikod Wrote: gordon is just a pothead, not really a thug. but i see what you mean.

True, but i would just rather have guys who take being a professional seriously.

They can smoke weed after their career is over, doesn't last too long. Shame to throw it all away.

These kind of things lead to another. Signs of problems that could happen again.

We need to keep to the Andy Dalton, AJ Green, Tyler Eifert, Geno Atkins types that are professionals on and off the field IMHO.

[XenoMorph]

(03-30-2017, 05:17 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: True, but i would just rather have guys who take being a professional seriously.

They can smoke weed after their career is over, doesn't last too long. Shame to throw it all away.

These kind of things lead to another. Signs of problems that could happen again.

We need to keep to the Andy Dalton, AJ Green, Tyler Eifert, Geno Atkins types that are professionals on and off the field IMHO.

hes on his last strike now....   If his head is in the game hes pretty amazing talent.     but the risk of giving him a roster spot is what is at stake here.

[XenoMorph]

(03-30-2017, 05:11 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Are we leaning to the thug life?

Seriously? That thread almost sounds like it is coming true. We want Mixon, Adam and Gordon on our team?

Well the Choir boys haven't won any Superbowls lately so why not.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-30-2017, 05:34 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: hes on his last strike now....   If his head is in the game hes pretty amazing talent.     but the risk of giving him a roster spot is what is at stake here.

He is a talent, not saying otherwise, i just don't like where we are leaning right now character wise.

(03-30-2017, 05:34 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Well the Choir boys haven't won any Superbowls lately so why not.

True, but they aren't the problem. The owner and the coaches are.

[Luvnit2]

(03-30-2017, 11:28 AM)milksheikh Wrote: 2nd and Gordon for McCarron & 5th compensation pick?

Much closer as Gordon is a huge risk and AJ is no risk

[Luvnit2]

(03-30-2017, 05:12 PM)magikod Wrote: gordon is just a pothead, not really a thug. but i see what you mean.

L. Bell is also a pothead, he seems to do OK on Sundays

[OrlandoBengal]

(03-30-2017, 05:12 PM)magikod Wrote: gordon is just a pothead, not really a thug. but i see what you mean.

I don't know if it is fact, but I've seen a couple times that he is an alcoholic.  The alcohol can definitely affect his judgement about getting high.  I don't remember reading much "bad" stuff about him, just that he suffers from addiction. 

[SunsetBengal]

(03-30-2017, 03:19 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: So he posted a narcissistic post on social media with his shirt off like the rest of the male population that doesn't mean anything. Players have mentioned from time to time the difference in being in shape and being in game shape.  If Hobson posted the same thing about one of our players he'd be called Hobspin and it would've been labeled a fluff piece.

Agreed, he didn't do anything special in that post that screams "I'm an elite athlete".  Hell, when I was 25 I could jam the ball with no one guarding me, as well as crush homers in batting practice setting.

What has Gordon done to demonstrate that he actually wants to commit to a team?  Because, even though a lot of players seem to think that everything is all about them, and that their actions only glorify or throw shade on themselves, individually.  The truth of the matter is when a player screws up, he let's the rest of his team down.  So, what has this guy done to show that he's ready to come back?  Has he completed an in house rehab program?  Is he holding down a regular civilian job?  Is he actively attending 12 step meetings?  Is he out there giving of his time to help the less fortunate?

I say screw him, he squandered several opportunities to get himself right and commit to football.  Let some rookie have an opportunity.

[BengalsRocker]

(03-30-2017, 02:21 PM)TKUHL Wrote: Why not.... It's not like he will taint our image anymore than it already is. What could possibly go wrong.

"Uh huh huh huh.  You said taint."

[Derrick]

(03-30-2017, 01:53 PM)ochocincos Wrote: IIRC, Gordon would be entering the final year of his rookie contract, and then he could be tendered as a RFA for another season after that. That would mean another 1-2 years of cheap money, which would essentially be low risk. Gordon is actually younger than McCarron.

That is probably right up Mikey's alley.