Post Senior Bowl Mock

[*ochocincos*]

Bengals don't seem to be considering OL in the first round based on Hobson's article on Bengals.com. They supposedly are looking at multiple OL in Rounds 2-4.
Based on that potentially true info, I tried to adjust my mock accordingly.
The Bengals also met with a handful of mid-round WR prospects, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that position addressed again in the draft.

2018 draft:
12) Roquan Smith, LB Georgia (6'1", 225 lb) - Arguably the biggest immediate need on defense is LB. If the Bengals can get a guy like Smith, it makes a lot of sense to take him. I can also see the Bengals falling in love with Edmunds if available, but he seems a bit more risky than Smith even though he has a higher ceiling.

46) Isaiah Wynn, OL Georgia (6'2", 308 lb) - Wynn has been really good for the Bulldogs, especially this year at LT. He moved from guard to LT this year and has rocked it. He's shorter in height and arm length than preferred for OT, so his best fit might be at guard but he has versatility that the coaches will love. He's also an aggressive blocker that gets push at the LOS, and some have compared him to Kelvin Beachum, who had a good career at LT in the NFL.

77) Frank Ragnow, C/RG Arkansas (6'5", 307 lb) - Better centers this year compared to last, which I think keeps Ragnow available here. He was not able to participate in Senior Bowl nor will he be healthy in time for the Combine, so I think that also keeps him here. Ragnow is a mauler and fits Pollack's scheme I think.

3 comp for Zeitler) Armani Watts, S Texas A&M (5'11", 205 lb) - Watts is an instinctual ball hawk that does lack some size and speed (expected 4.6 40 time) and has been inconsistent when it comes to making wrap-up tackles vs making a hit. I think he'd be a solid addition to compete with Brandon Wilson for that final safety spot and work his way up the depth chart.

108) Troy Fumagalli, TE Wisconsin (6'6", 248 lb) - Fumagalli is a well-rounded TE that would fit well with the Bengals. He is an especially good blocker, which this Bengals team needs to succeed. I think there's a decent chance he could be here given he's not an elite receiver but just does everything well.

142) Jaleel Scott, WR New Mexico St (6'5", 215 lb) - Big WR that can highpoint the ball, enough speed to get deep occasionally, and can run various routes. Sleeper WR that might not be available though at this pick.

5 comp for Whitworth) Bruce Hector, DT USF (6'2", 295 lb) - I just found this guy and thought the Bengals might be able to get a nice sleeper 3T rather than have to draft one high. Hector has posted 7+ TFL and 5+ sacks each year for a total of 28 TFL and 18 sacks. He can come in as a pass rush specialist as a rookie while Billings gets more experience at NT.

173) Heath Harding, CB Miami University (5'10", 188 lb) - Gotta go with my alma mater! Aggressive CB that might get labeled a slot CB due to size, but may still be able to play outside given his demeanor. He hits hard, tackles well, can track the ball well, and has safety experience. I like Harding as a depth option.

204) Daniel Carlson, K Auburn (6'4", 218 lb) - The Bengals should have kept Jake Elliott, although Bullock was very solid. Carlson has a big leg like Elliott but hasn't been quite as accurate this year with just 75% FGs made. However, he had really good 2015 and 2016 seasons (87.5% and 85.2%), so I think it's worth a 7th rounder to bring in competition for Bullock again.

224 NE trade for Flowers) Darrel Williams, RB LSU (6'1", 229 lb) - Hammer RB that can also catch passes out of the backfield. He played compliment to LSU standout Derrius Guice. An ideal fit in short yardage and play ST.

[pulses]

(01-30-2018, 05:35 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Bengals don't seem to be considering OL in the first round based on Hobson's article on Bengals.com. They supposedly are looking at multiple OL in Rounds 2-4.
Based on that potentially true info, I tried to adjust my mock accordingly.
The Bengals also met with a handful of mid-round WR prospects, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that position addressed again in the draft.

2018 draft:
12) Roquan Smith, LB Georgia (6'1", 225 lb) - Arguably the biggest immediate need on defense is LB. If the Bengals can get a guy like Smith, it makes a lot of sense to take him. I can also see the Bengals falling in love with Edmunds if available, but he seems a bit more risky than Smith even though he has a higher ceiling.

46) Isaiah Wynn, OL Georgia (6'2", 308 lb) - Wynn has been really good for the Bulldogs, especially this year at LT. He moved from guard to LT this year and has rocked it. He's shorter in height and arm length than preferred for OT, so his best fit might be at guard but he has versatility that the coaches will love. He's also an aggressive blocker that gets push at the LOS, and some have compared him to Kelvin Beachum, who had a good career at LT in the NFL.

77) Frank Ragnow, C/RG Arkansas (6'5", 307 lb) - Better centers this year compared to last, which I think keeps Ragnow available here. He was not able to participate in Senior Bowl nor will he be healthy in time for the Combine, so I think that also keeps him here. Ragnow is a mauler and fits Pollack's scheme I think.

3 comp for Zeitler) Armani Watts, S Texas A&M (5'11", 205 lb) - Watts is an instinctual ball hawk that does lack some size and speed (expected 4.6 40 time) and has been inconsistent when it comes to making wrap-up tackles vs making a hit. I think he'd be a solid addition to compete with Brandon Wilson for that final safety spot and work his way up the depth chart.

108) Troy Fumagalli, TE Wisconsin (6'6", 248 lb) - Fumagalli is a well-rounded TE that would fit well with the Bengals. He is an especially good blocker, which this Bengals team needs to succeed. I think there's a decent chance he could be here given he's not an elite receiver but just does everything well.

142) Jaleel Scott, WR New Mexico St (6'5", 215 lb) - Big WR that can highpoint the ball, enough speed to get deep occasionally, and can run various routes. Sleeper WR that might not be available though at this pick.

5 comp for Whitworth) Bruce Hector, DT USF (6'2", 295 lb) - I just found this guy and thought the Bengals might be able to get a nice sleeper 3T rather than have to draft one high. Hector has posted 7+ TFL and 5+ sacks each year for a total of 28 TFL and 18 sacks. He can come in as a pass rush specialist as a rookie while Billings gets more experience at NT.

173) Heath Harding, CB Miami University (5'10", 188 lb) - Gotta go with my alma mater! Aggressive CB that might get labeled a slot CB due to size, but may still be able to play outside given his demeanor. He hits hard, tackles well, can track the ball well, and has safety experience. I like Harding as a depth option.

204) Daniel Carlson, K Auburn (6'4", 218 lb) - The Bengals should have kept Jake Elliott, although Bullock was very solid. Carlson has a big leg like Elliott but hasn't been quite as accurate this year with just 75% FGs made. However, he had really good 2015 and 2016 seasons (87.5% and 85.2%), so I think it's worth a 7th rounder to bring in competition for Bullock again.

224 NE trade for Flowers) Darrel Williams, RB LSU (6'1", 229 lb) - Hammer RB that can also catch passes out of the backfield. He played compliment to LSU standout Derrius Guice. An ideal fit in short yardage and play ST.

I like the majority of it...I prefer another safety in 3 and as far as the WR goes i think we need faster WR's who can get seperation.......

I really liked the play of the safety Jeremy Reaves from S Alabama in the senior bowl.


Every year at the Senior Bowl, some smaller-school defensive backs take advantage of the all-star game attention to showcase their talent against more highly touted players. Reaves could be one of those players in 2018, as he was a tackling machine over the past three seasons. Reaves totaled 104 tackles as a senior, 85 as a junior and 96 as a sophomore. He also totaled eight career interceptions, with three as a senior. Reaves also notched eight passes broken up in 2017. He is a player to watch in Mobile.

[*ochocincos*]

(01-30-2018, 07:57 PM)pulses Wrote: I like the majority of it...I prefer another safety in 3 and as far as the WR goes i think we need faster WR's who can get seperation.......

I really liked the play of the safety Jeremy Reaves from S Alabama in the senior bowl.


Every year at the Senior Bowl, some smaller-school defensive backs take advantage of the all-star game attention to showcase their talent against more highly touted players. Reaves could be one of those players in 2018, as he was a tackling machine over the past three seasons. Reaves totaled 104 tackles as a senior, 85 as a junior and 96 as a sophomore. He also totaled eight career interceptions, with three as a senior. Reaves also notched eight passes broken up in 2017. He is a player to watch in Mobile.

Watts is not my first choice for safety, and there likely will be safeties that fall.
I’ll have to check out Reaves I guess.

As for WRs, I get it but those receivers are likely going to be like the one the Bengals just drafted at 9. I tried to find a different kind of WR. But I think WR is highly likely in the middle rounds.


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[Emeritus]

I like some of the players in this mock. I kinda judge a mock on who could possibly contribute day one. I'm not one for picking two guys from the same school but thats just me and they are two good prospects. I do think that AJ gets his pass when the ruling comes down. So a quarterback in a good draft for one might not be off the table at some point. Also Scott is a Chris Henry clone so I like him alot!!
Good mock

[Jpoore]

Like it. I would prefer Edmunds but I don't think he's there so Smith is a good second . Rest I like.

[Lionel Hutz]

Like it. Bengals have had pretty good return on Georgia guys over the years (even David Pollack and Odell Thurman were players before early ends to their careers). Roquan Smith was a beast the second half of the Oklahoma game. Also like the Fumagalli pick.

[*Go Cards*]

(01-31-2018, 11:55 AM)Lionel Hutz Wrote: Like it.  Bengals have had pretty good return on Georgia guys over the years (even David Pollack and Odell Thurman were players before early ends to their careers).  Roquan Smith was a beast the second half of the Oklahoma game.  Also like the Fumagalli pick.

Yep very good luck with Georgia players for the most part. 

Charlie Strong said in an interview about 5 years back that although Florida has always been a top HS hotbed for college division 1 players to be found. 

Georgia has now surpassed them.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

Love the direction.  We need a good LB as much as we need Oline help.  I think you have a very solid board there......now go take over the war room. NOW.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

This seems better than what I expect the Bengals to actually do.

[sandwedge]

I like your first 3 RDs, but after that I really don't know anything about anybody..

[SunsetBengal]

I'd be pretty stoked, should the actual draft turn out anything like that.

No complaints from me!

[BenZoo2]

(01-30-2018, 05:35 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Bengals don't seem to be considering OL in the first round based on Hobson's article on Bengals.com. They supposedly are looking at multiple OL in Rounds 2-4.
Based on that potentially true info, I tried to adjust my mock accordingly.
The Bengals also met with a handful of mid-round WR prospects, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that position addressed again in the draft.

2018 draft:
12) Roquan Smith, LB Georgia (6'1", 225 lb) - Arguably the biggest immediate need on defense is LB. If the Bengals can get a guy like Smith, it makes a lot of sense to take him. I can also see the Bengals falling in love with Edmunds if available, but he seems a bit more risky than Smith even though he has a higher ceiling.

46) Isaiah Wynn, OL Georgia (6'2", 308 lb) - Wynn has been really good for the Bulldogs, especially this year at LT. He moved from guard to LT this year and has rocked it. He's shorter in height and arm length than preferred for OT, so his best fit might be at guard but he has versatility that the coaches will love. He's also an aggressive blocker that gets push at the LOS, and some have compared him to Kelvin Beachum, who had a good career at LT in the NFL.

77) Frank Ragnow, C/RG Arkansas (6'5", 307 lb) - Better centers this year compared to last, which I think keeps Ragnow available here. He was not able to participate in Senior Bowl nor will he be healthy in time for the Combine, so I think that also keeps him here. Ragnow is a mauler and fits Pollack's scheme I think.

3 comp for Zeitler) Armani Watts, S Texas A&M (5'11", 205 lb) - Watts is an instinctual ball hawk that does lack some size and speed (expected 4.6 40 time) and has been inconsistent when it comes to making wrap-up tackles vs making a hit. I think he'd be a solid addition to compete with Brandon Wilson for that final safety spot and work his way up the depth chart.

108) Troy Fumagalli, TE Wisconsin (6'6", 248 lb) - Fumagalli is a well-rounded TE that would fit well with the Bengals. He is an especially good blocker, which this Bengals team needs to succeed. I think there's a decent chance he could be here given he's not an elite receiver but just does everything well.

142) Jaleel Scott, WR New Mexico St (6'5", 215 lb) - Big WR that can highpoint the ball, enough speed to get deep occasionally, and can run various routes. Sleeper WR that might not be available though at this pick.

5 comp for Whitworth) Bruce Hector, DT USF (6'2", 295 lb) - I just found this guy and thought the Bengals might be able to get a nice sleeper 3T rather than have to draft one high. Hector has posted 7+ TFL and 5+ sacks each year for a total of 28 TFL and 18 sacks. He can come in as a pass rush specialist as a rookie while Billings gets more experience at NT.

173) Heath Harding, CB Miami University (5'10", 188 lb) - Gotta go with my alma mater! Aggressive CB that might get labeled a slot CB due to size, but may still be able to play outside given his demeanor. He hits hard, tackles well, can track the ball well, and has safety experience. I like Harding as a depth option.

204) Daniel Carlson, K Auburn (6'4", 218 lb) - The Bengals should have kept Jake Elliott, although Bullock was very solid. Carlson has a big leg like Elliott but hasn't been quite as accurate this year with just 75% FGs made. However, he had really good 2015 and 2016 seasons (87.5% and 85.2%), so I think it's worth a 7th rounder to bring in competition for Bullock again.

224 NE trade for Flowers) Darrel Williams, RB LSU (6'1", 229 lb) - Hammer RB that can also catch passes out of the backfield. He played compliment to LSU standout Derrius Guice. An ideal fit in short yardage and play ST.

I don’t know much about a couple of your last picks but this is a very good, realistic mock. Whenever I get around to posting mine I think you’ll see some similar thought processes.

Nice job


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[RagnarLothbrok]

This is literally my dream draft. I am a UGA diehard and I am salivating at the idea of Smith and Wynn. I'm literally willing to trade up to #10 to get Smith I am that sold on him.

To the guy who said he doesn't like drafting from the same school - UGA has produced some superstars. Matthew Stafford, Todd Gurley III, AJ Green, Geno Atkins, (though I hate him) Hines Ward, Fran Tarkenton, Terrell Davis, Champ Bailey. I mean the list goes on. Georgia is a great school to recruit from.

[ML46]

If Roquan Smith still avaiable a #12, you simply cant pass on him! Just imagine for a minute the duo he could be a part of with Vontaze Burfict!

For the 2nd and 3rd round, all my focus is on the oline, need to find a remplacement for Bodine (if he's not already gone by this time), but once again, Wynn is a guy that you cant pass on him if he still there at selection #46!

I really like your mock, good job!

[Jpoore]

(02-07-2018, 02:10 AM)ML46 Wrote: If Roquan Smith still avaiable a #12, you simply cant pass on him! Just imagine for a minute the duo he could be a part of with Vontaze Burfict!

For the 2nd and 3rd round, all my focus is on the oline, need to find a remplacement for Bodine (if he's not already gone by this time), but once again, Wynn is a guy that you cant pass on him if he still there at selection #46!

I really like your mock, good job!

They play the same position. If we go lb Edmunds is a much better pick.

[*ochocincos*]

(02-07-2018, 05:47 PM)Jpoore Wrote: They play the same position. If we go lb Edmunds is a much better pick.

Edmunds has higher upside and better size, but Smith is the safer pick and better player out of the gate.
Either way, the Bengals would be getting a damn good LB with either Edmunds or Smith.

[wolfkaosaun]

I'd be very happy with this mock. Watts is an underrated safety and I think would be a great fit for the Bengals. Troy Fumagelli would also be a good pick and improvement over Kroft and Uzomah

[Jpoore]

(02-08-2018, 10:30 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Edmunds has higher upside and better size, but Smith is the safer pick and better player out of the gate.
Either way, the Bengals would be getting a damn good LB with either Edmunds or Smith.

Yeah that's true. My main problem with Smith is where would he play? Bc burfict dosent want to play mike full time.

[*ochocincos*]

(02-08-2018, 10:04 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Yeah that's true. My main problem with Smith is where would he play? Bc burfict dosent want to play mike full time.

Even though Smith is 225 lb, I think he can play MIKE. In today’s NFL you don’t have to be 250+ lbs. Reuben Foster is listed as the MIKE in SF and he’s under 230 lbs.


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[Jpoore]

(02-08-2018, 10:49 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Even though Smith is 225 lb, I think he can play MIKE. In today’s NFL you don’t have to be 250+ lbs. Reuben Foster is listed as the MIKE in SF and he’s under 230 lbs.


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If he played mike get ready for an average rb to run for 300+ yards on us. He is out of position so much bc he runs around blocks. If a guard gets his hands on him forget it he's over in the play.