SHRacer Final Mock (SIM) LOVE IT!!!

[*SHRacerX*]

This has to be my favorite mock/sim thus far (that I have run). I will give a brief rationale for the selections as well. I am not skilled in the art of clipping pics and/or videos but I hope you all will check these out.

Your score is: 22045 (GRADE: A-) (I could care less what grade it gave me....I loved this one)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 21: James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A)- No longer "just getting by" with safety play. This guy is a huge playmaker and leader. Love his physicality and athleticism. With the only first round grade OT gone, I went with the Jimmy Johnson philosophy: "Give me playmakers".

Round 2 Pick 14: Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B)- Another position where the Bengals have just been "getting by" for some time. No longer. Ragnow is a mauler with tons of experience against top-flight competition. Andy Dalton probably won't know what to do with a pocket not falling on his lap, and not coincidentally names his next son "Frank".

Round 3 Pick 13: Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A)- His Pro Day was much better than his combine, which he obviously just rested rather than prepared for. There simply are not many people on the planet that have his size, strength, and experience at the tackle position. He wins the job at RT and is there a decade.

Round 3 Pick 36: Dawson, Duke, CB, Florida (A+)- Bye Bye, Pacman. Hello, Duke! Our slot corner that has the instincts and short-space quickness and competitiveness to blanket slot WRs. Watch his tape against Christian Kirk from Texas A&M. Blanketed that dude.

Round 4 Pick 12: Thomas, Ian, TE, Indiana (A+)- A bit of a project, as he has very little game experience at Indiana, but is taking to coaching very well (not unlike Cody Core did out of Mississippi). This guy has monster arms and hands and could project as more of an inline blocking TE that can still move the sticks on short routes. With more emphasis on the rushing attack, this guy could prove his worth in gold. The Bengals have three TEs that all have the same skill set (with varying levels of talent) and they all aren't adept blockers. This guy can do both.


Round 5 Pick 14: Norton, Kendrick, DT, Miami (FL) (A+)- Ok, maybe I fell in love with the bloodlines here, but he has strength and power to plug the NT position. He may not offer a lot of pass rush, but he will eat blocks and is a sure tackler. Very underrated player if you watch all his film. Not a guy that will be moved off his spot.

Round 5 Pick 21: Lazard, Allen, WR, Iowa State (A+)- A WR? I know, I know. Lazard was a guy that I watched a lot at Iowa State and I couldn't get over how he ALWAYS seemed to come down with the ball. He could have two guys one him and would outfight them both and make the reception. What I want to do with Lazard might be a bit of a stretch for the Bengals, but it makes sense. He works with strength and conditioning all year and projects as a move TE. The guy has the frame to do it, and you simply can't teach hands and competitiveness. He is a classic "possession receiver" right now with a very big catch radius...a bit like Michael Thomas at New Orleans, but not quite as quick. He could be Eifert 2.0, though, with a year to develop.

Round 5 Pick 33: OConnell, Cody, OG, Washington State (B-)- Basically, this is my backup RT to groom behind Orlando Brown (and push in case he becomes complacent. A massive body that held up well against sure first rounder, Vita Vea. Probably one of the only guys to project as a tackle FROM the guard spot, but the WSU offense was all about quick strikes and their QB (Falk) just needed a clean pocket in the middle for a second to get the ball off. He is way too tall to be a guard, but his length and size would be amazing with a year to develop at RT. If he really pans out, he could get time as the "extra OT" in short yardage.

Round 7 Pick 31: Winbush, Anthony, OLB, Ball State (A)- As a former MAC guy myself, I love watching the wacky MAC. This guy jumped off the screen and plays with his hair on fire. A developmental guy that would project as a pass-rush specialist.

Round 7 Pick 34: Carlson, Daniel, K, Auburn (A+)- Just making sure Fat Randy doesn't get any fatter.

Round 7 Pick 35: Flowers, Tre, SS, Oklahoma State (A+)- Athlete that needs some coaching. Could surprise.

Thoughts?

[BFritz21]

(04-15-2018, 10:46 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: This has to be my favorite mock/sim thus far (that I have run).  I will give a brief rationale for the selections as well.  I am not skilled in the art of clipping pics and/or videos but I hope you all will check these out.

Your score is: 22045 (GRADE: A-) (I could care less what grade it gave me....I loved this one)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 21:  James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A)- No longer "just getting by" with safety play.  This guy is a huge playmaker and leader.  Love his physicality and athleticism.  With the only first round grade OT gone, I went with the Jimmy Johnson philosophy:  "Give me playmakers".  

Round 2 Pick 14:  Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B)- Another position where the Bengals have just been "getting by" for some time.  No longer.  Ragnow is a mauler with tons of experience against top-flight competition.  Andy Dalton probably won't know what to do with a pocket not falling on his lap, and not coincidentally names his next son "Frank".  

Round 3 Pick 13:  Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A)- His Pro Day was much better than his combine, which he obviously just rested rather than prepared for.  There simply are not many people on the planet that have his size, strength, and experience at the tackle position.  He wins the job at RT and is there a decade.  

Round 3 Pick 36:  Dawson, Duke, CB, Florida (A+)-  Bye Bye, Pacman.  Hello, Duke!  Our slot corner that has the instincts and short-space quickness and competitiveness to blanket slot WRs.  Watch his tape against Christian Kirk from Texas A&M.  Blanketed that dude.  

Round 4 Pick 12:  Thomas, Ian, TE, Indiana (A+)- A bit of a project, as he has very little game experience at Indiana, but is taking to coaching very well (not unlike Cody Core did out of Mississippi).  This guy has monster arms and hands and could project as more of an inline blocking TE that can still move the sticks on short routes.  With more emphasis on the rushing attack, this guy could prove his worth in gold. The Bengals have three TEs that all have the same skill set (with varying levels of talent) and they all aren't adept blockers.  This guy can do both.  


Round 5 Pick 14:  Norton, Kendrick, DT, Miami (FL) (A+)-  Ok, maybe I fell in love with the bloodlines here, but he has strength and power to plug the NT position.  He may not offer a lot of pass rush, but he will eat blocks and is a sure tackler.  Very underrated player if you watch all his film.  Not a guy that will be moved off his spot.  

Round 5 Pick 21:  Lazard, Allen, WR, Iowa State (A+)- A WR?  I know, I know.  Lazard was a guy that I watched a lot at Iowa State and I couldn't get over how he ALWAYS seemed to come down with the ball.  He could have two guys one him and would outfight them both and make the reception.  What I want to do with Lazard might be a bit of a stretch for the Bengals, but it makes sense.  He works with strength and conditioning all year and projects as a move TE.  The guy has the frame to do it, and you simply can't teach hands and competitiveness.  He is a classic "possession receiver" right now with a very big catch radius...a bit like Michael Thomas at New Orleans, but not quite as quick.  He could be Eifert 2.0, though, with a year to develop.  

Round 5 Pick 33:  OConnell, Cody, OG, Washington State (B-)- Basically, this is my backup RT to groom behind Orlando Brown (and push in case he becomes complacent.  A massive body that held up well against sure first rounder, Vita Vea.  Probably one of the only guys to project as a tackle FROM the guard spot, but the WSU offense was all about quick strikes and their QB (Falk) just needed a clean pocket in the middle for a second to get the ball off.  He is way too tall to be a guard, but his length and size would be amazing with a year to develop at RT.  If he really pans out, he could get time as the "extra OT" in short yardage.

Round 7 Pick 31:  Winbush, Anthony, OLB, Ball State (A)-  As a former MAC guy myself, I love watching the wacky MAC.  This guy jumped off the screen and plays with his hair on fire.  A developmental guy that would project as a pass-rush specialist.  

Round 7 Pick 34:  Carlson, Daniel, K, Auburn (A+)-  Just making sure Fat Randy doesn't get any fatter.

Round 7 Pick 35:  Flowers, Tre, SS, Oklahoma State (A+)- Athlete that needs some coaching.  Could surprise.  

Thoughts?

Love it.

Actually, I love it if Pollack can make Redmond and Westerman into solid starters because that's a huge weakness.  Otherwise, we need to address it early.

I fell in love with Derwin James but I've slowed the hype on him ever since I decided that the line needed to be addressed in the first.  I'd LOVE to get him and think that he could help transform our defense.  

I'm happy with Billings, so I would probably go with a pass rushing defensive end in the fifth round.

[SadFaceBengal15]

really solid however...whats ur solution for linebacker. first 4 weeks no burfict so we only literally have preston brown. the rest are late round unproven backups at best. we are banking on jordan evans??? Burfict is one more mess up from being done not just the first 4 weeks. your thoughts. but ur draft has a ton of talent. but u cant do anything in the afc north with just preston brown imo.

[*Go Cards*]

(04-15-2018, 10:46 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: This has to be my favorite mock/sim thus far (that I have run).  I will give a brief rationale for the selections as well.  I am not skilled in the art of clipping pics and/or videos but I hope you all will check these out.

Your score is: 22045 (GRADE: A-) (I could care less what grade it gave me....I loved this one)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 21:  James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A)- No longer "just getting by" with safety play.  This guy is a huge playmaker and leader.  Love his physicality and athleticism.  With the only first round grade OT gone, I went with the Jimmy Johnson philosophy:  "Give me playmakers".  

Round 2 Pick 14:  Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B)- Another position where the Bengals have just been "getting by" for some time.  No longer.  Ragnow is a mauler with tons of experience against top-flight competition.  Andy Dalton probably won't know what to do with a pocket not falling on his lap, and not coincidentally names his next son "Frank".  

Round 3 Pick 13:  Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A)- His Pro Day was much better than his combine, which he obviously just rested rather than prepared for.  There simply are not many people on the planet that have his size, strength, and experience at the tackle position.  He wins the job at RT and is there a decade.  

Round 3 Pick 36:  Dawson, Duke, CB, Florida (A+)-  Bye Bye, Pacman.  Hello, Duke!  Our slot corner that has the instincts and short-space quickness and competitiveness to blanket slot WRs.  Watch his tape against Christian Kirk from Texas A&M.  Blanketed that dude.  

Round 4 Pick 12:  Thomas, Ian, TE, Indiana (A+)- A bit of a project, as he has very little game experience at Indiana, but is taking to coaching very well (not unlike Cody Core did out of Mississippi).  This guy has monster arms and hands and could project as more of an inline blocking TE that can still move the sticks on short routes.  With more emphasis on the rushing attack, this guy could prove his worth in gold. The Bengals have three TEs that all have the same skill set (with varying levels of talent) and they all aren't adept blockers.  This guy can do both.  


Round 5 Pick 14:  Norton, Kendrick, DT, Miami (FL) (A+)-  Ok, maybe I fell in love with the bloodlines here, but he has strength and power to plug the NT position.  He may not offer a lot of pass rush, but he will eat blocks and is a sure tackler.  Very underrated player if you watch all his film.  Not a guy that will be moved off his spot.  

Round 5 Pick 21:  Lazard, Allen, WR, Iowa State (A+)- A WR?  I know, I know.  Lazard was a guy that I watched a lot at Iowa State and I couldn't get over how he ALWAYS seemed to come down with the ball.  He could have two guys one him and would outfight them both and make the reception.  What I want to do with Lazard might be a bit of a stretch for the Bengals, but it makes sense.  He works with strength and conditioning all year and projects as a move TE.  The guy has the frame to do it, and you simply can't teach hands and competitiveness.  He is a classic "possession receiver" right now with a very big catch radius...a bit like Michael Thomas at New Orleans, but not quite as quick.  He could be Eifert 2.0, though, with a year to develop.  

Round 5 Pick 33:  OConnell, Cody, OG, Washington State (B-)- Basically, this is my backup RT to groom behind Orlando Brown (and push in case he becomes complacent.  A massive body that held up well against sure first rounder, Vita Vea.  Probably one of the only guys to project as a tackle FROM the guard spot, but the WSU offense was all about quick strikes and their QB (Falk) just needed a clean pocket in the middle for a second to get the ball off.  He is way too tall to be a guard, but his length and size would be amazing with a year to develop at RT.  If he really pans out, he could get time as the "extra OT" in short yardage.

Round 7 Pick 31:  Winbush, Anthony, OLB, Ball State (A)-  As a former MAC guy myself, I love watching the wacky MAC.  This guy jumped off the screen and plays with his hair on fire.  A developmental guy that would project as a pass-rush specialist.  

Round 7 Pick 34:  Carlson, Daniel, K, Auburn (A+)-  Just making sure Fat Randy doesn't get any fatter.

Round 7 Pick 35:  Flowers, Tre, SS, Oklahoma State (A+)- Athlete that needs some coaching.  Could surprise.  

Thoughts?

works for me

[Luvnit2]

(04-15-2018, 10:46 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: This has to be my favorite mock/sim thus far (that I have run).  I will give a brief rationale for the selections as well.  I am not skilled in the art of clipping pics and/or videos but I hope you all will check these out.

Your score is: 22045 (GRADE: A-) (I could care less what grade it gave me....I loved this one)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 21:  James, Derwin, SS/FS, Florida State (A)- No longer "just getting by" with safety play.  This guy is a huge playmaker and leader.  Love his physicality and athleticism.  With the only first round grade OT gone, I went with the Jimmy Johnson philosophy:  "Give me playmakers".  

Round 2 Pick 14:  Ragnow, Frank, C/OG, Arkansas (B)- Another position where the Bengals have just been "getting by" for some time.  No longer.  Ragnow is a mauler with tons of experience against top-flight competition.  Andy Dalton probably won't know what to do with a pocket not falling on his lap, and not coincidentally names his next son "Frank".  

Round 3 Pick 13:  Brown, Orlando, OT, Oklahoma (A)- His Pro Day was much better than his combine, which he obviously just rested rather than prepared for.  There simply are not many people on the planet that have his size, strength, and experience at the tackle position.  He wins the job at RT and is there a decade.  

Round 3 Pick 36:  Dawson, Duke, CB, Florida (A+)-  Bye Bye, Pacman.  Hello, Duke!  Our slot corner that has the instincts and short-space quickness and competitiveness to blanket slot WRs.  Watch his tape against Christian Kirk from Texas A&M.  Blanketed that dude.  

Round 4 Pick 12:  Thomas, Ian, TE, Indiana (A+)- A bit of a project, as he has very little game experience at Indiana, but is taking to coaching very well (not unlike Cody Core did out of Mississippi).  This guy has monster arms and hands and could project as more of an inline blocking TE that can still move the sticks on short routes.  With more emphasis on the rushing attack, this guy could prove his worth in gold. The Bengals have three TEs that all have the same skill set (with varying levels of talent) and they all aren't adept blockers.  This guy can do both.  


Round 5 Pick 14:  Norton, Kendrick, DT, Miami (FL) (A+)-  Ok, maybe I fell in love with the bloodlines here, but he has strength and power to plug the NT position.  He may not offer a lot of pass rush, but he will eat blocks and is a sure tackler.  Very underrated player if you watch all his film.  Not a guy that will be moved off his spot.  

Round 5 Pick 21:  Lazard, Allen, WR, Iowa State (A+)- A WR?  I know, I know.  Lazard was a guy that I watched a lot at Iowa State and I couldn't get over how he ALWAYS seemed to come down with the ball.  He could have two guys one him and would outfight them both and make the reception.  What I want to do with Lazard might be a bit of a stretch for the Bengals, but it makes sense.  He works with strength and conditioning all year and projects as a move TE.  The guy has the frame to do it, and you simply can't teach hands and competitiveness.  He is a classic "possession receiver" right now with a very big catch radius...a bit like Michael Thomas at New Orleans, but not quite as quick.  He could be Eifert 2.0, though, with a year to develop.  

Round 5 Pick 33:  OConnell, Cody, OG, Washington State (B-)- Basically, this is my backup RT to groom behind Orlando Brown (and push in case he becomes complacent.  A massive body that held up well against sure first rounder, Vita Vea.  Probably one of the only guys to project as a tackle FROM the guard spot, but the WSU offense was all about quick strikes and their QB (Falk) just needed a clean pocket in the middle for a second to get the ball off.  He is way too tall to be a guard, but his length and size would be amazing with a year to develop at RT.  If he really pans out, he could get time as the "extra OT" in short yardage.

Round 7 Pick 31:  Winbush, Anthony, OLB, Ball State (A)-  As a former MAC guy myself, I love watching the wacky MAC.  This guy jumped off the screen and plays with his hair on fire.  A developmental guy that would project as a pass-rush specialist.  

Round 7 Pick 34:  Carlson, Daniel, K, Auburn (A+)-  Just making sure Fat Randy doesn't get any fatter.

Round 7 Pick 35:  Flowers, Tre, SS, Oklahoma State (A+)- Athlete that needs some coaching.  Could surprise.  

Thoughts?

If others draft against you, looks like you had some morons drafting for other teams.

I have James be rated top 5 to top 15 in almost every reputable site. Brown has slid, but I would be bet heavily he will not be available in round.

Great drafting by you, just don't think those guys are there where you drafted them in rounds 1 and 3 and maybe not round 2 for our center either.

[*SHRacerX*]

(04-15-2018, 11:12 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Love it.

Actually, I love it if Pollack can make Redmond and Westerman into solid starters because that's a huge weakness.  Otherwise, we need to address it early.

I fell in love with Derwin James but I've slowed the hype on him ever since I decided that the line needed to be addressed in the first.  I'd LOVE to get him and think that he could help transform our defense.  

I'm happy with Billings, so I would probably go with a pass rushing defensive end in the fifth round.

Absolutely, Brad.  I was looking for a DE the entire draft.  Seems very thin and top-heavy.  I really like the kid from Ball State if he can play some SAM and can help rush the passer.   Drafting Norton would help push Glasgow and Billings to be their best, and he might help them be better players by allowing for more rotational play at the NT position.  I think Billings has some quickness as a pass rusher that Glasgow doesn't have and could rotate for Geno to get some snaps off.  

[*SHRacerX*]

(04-15-2018, 12:56 PM)SadFaceBengal15 Wrote: really solid however...whats ur solution for linebacker.  first 4 weeks no burfict so we only literally have preston brown.  the rest are late round unproven backups at best.  we are banking on jordan evans??? Burfict is one more mess up from being done not just the first 4 weeks.  your thoughts.  but ur draft has a ton of talent.  but u cant do anything in the afc north with just preston brown imo.

It is a great question.  I can't help but think the Bengals may still sign a veteran FA LB that is a cap casualty on some club after the draft, but I also believe they will go with Vigil and Evans to back up Burfict's spot (Derwin can even play some nickel backer, he did it in college).

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

I mean, would love those first 5 picks. Doubting Derwin gets past the Packers now after hearing they lost Burnett
and i believe if we don't take Ragnow at 21 we would have to trade up for him or the Panthers will who have been
looking at him the same as us and the Panthers pick right after us in the first at 24. Could see them picking Frank
there and i would hate it.

Would love this Draft if it fell this way though.

Just would change Norton to an End if one was decent. Think we will be needing much more help there.

Great Mock that i would love to see.

[Hammerstripes]

(04-16-2018, 07:14 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: It is a great question.  I can't help but think the Bengals may still sign a veteran FA LB that is a cap casualty on some club after the draft, but I also believe they will go with Vigil and Evans to back up Burfict's spot (Derwin can even play some nickel backer, he did it in college).

I don't think the Bengals are that concerned about it.

They LOVE Rey as a backup and know he can step in and perform pretty well for short stretches.

They also like Vigil.

They signed Brown.

Evans saw quite a bit of action last year and fills in nicely.

It's not dire straights without Burfict.

[*SHRacerX*]

(04-20-2018, 01:06 AM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I don't think the Bengals are that concerned about it.

They LOVE Rey as a backup and know he can step in and perform pretty well for short stretches.

They also like Vigil.

They signed Brown.

Evans saw quite a bit of action last year and fills in nicely.

It's not dire straights without Burfict.

It is not dire straights without Burfict, but what we saw in Balitmore last year after a guy like Vigil and Rey both were down, we need some more depth here.  

[Hammerstripes]

(04-20-2018, 07:47 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: It is not dire straights without Burfict, but what we saw in Balitmore last year after a guy like Vigil and Rey both were down, we need some more depth here.  

Agree - but if we are starting a rookie in the first couple weeks, then you know how well that will go.

[CJD]

I mean, you can't complain about any of those picks.

I would be surprised if James fell that far. I would also be surprised (recently) if Ragnow made it to the 2nd round for us. It may be smoke screens, but apparently there is a lot of interest for him. And Brown falling to the 3rd is awfully alarmist considering he was a 1st round lock pre-combine. I dunno. We'll see.

But I'd love it if it shook out this way.