Glenn at odds with Bengals over concussion

[grampahol]

Don't worry. Mike Brown in his infinite wisdom will do something. He'll sit on his golf cart and pretend everything is honky dorey.. 
SUPER BOWL HERE WE COME!  

[XsandOs]

(10-18-2019, 11:19 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: I’m a former Army PA still in practice as a civilian PA with 18 years of experience. So I know 1, possibly even 2 things about concussions. If you’re a physician then I can only imagine your embarrassment at having your misinformation regarding basic concussion information corrected by an amateur like myself.

Claiming a concussion that lasts 2 months isn’t a concussion, but a TBI indicates you need to brush up on the basics. Because not only is a concussion a TBI, it is the most common type of TBI. While most concussions resolve in 2 weeks, some can linger for months.

Despite the smoke and mirrors related to migraines to save face, it doesn’t change the fact if we imagined just the true migraine suffers none of the imaging modalities can detect a migraine.

I’m well aware that medical conditions that require a clinical diagnosis can be abused by someone who is malingering. But, you have no evidence of malingering and the information we do know is still consistent with a concussion. You’re letting your personal feelings cloud your clinical judgment, if you have any clinical judgment. And I’m not sure that you do if you don’t know a concussion is a TBI.

Then you should have a discussion with any of the VA Centers of Excellence on HAs associated with TBI - related to imaging, diagnosis and classification.

You can reach out to either DC or the Maguire VA in Richmond where the coordinating chair sits.

I will not read your dissertation.

[grampahol]

(10-18-2019, 12:26 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: In all seriousness, could this season be any worse? Could there be any more nightmares to deal with?

NAHHH! We've never been in better shape. The players are all buying in and ultimately respect team ownership and management. Glenn is just secretly dissatisfied with the decorating scheme of the new coach offices. 

[grampahol]

You all know that this can only mean one thing. The Bengals are turning a corner and both front wheels have fallen off and the brakes have failed and the gas tank has a big hole in it. Other than those few minor issues everything is going just fine. 

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(10-18-2019, 12:23 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Even the stuff ESPN posts is from 'unidentified sources' much of the time and sometimes turns out incorrect.

.....and that's the problem. Hell, even our news outlets are heading down that rabbit hole. The media is a mess these days my friend.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(10-18-2019, 12:26 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: In all seriousness, could this season be any worse? Could there be any more nightmares to deal with?

Never underestimate the power of the dark side....

[grampahol]

Next up.. Entire Bengals coaching staff and players demand to be traded.. Mike Brown draws a line in the sand where his next sand castle will be located with a hurricane predicted in the next few days. 

[Whatever]

(10-18-2019, 11:31 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Contact involves hitting other players in pads at full speed during simulated game conditions. Not individual drills with a bag and no pads at less than half speed.

I don't think you understand what non contact entails.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cincyjungle.com/platform/amp/2019/10/16/20917986/aj-green-injury-news-bengals-jaguars-report-cordy-glenn-geoff-marqise-lee

Glenn was listed as a Full Participant on the 10/16 Injury Report.  He could not be listed as a Full Participant unless he was cleared by both the team doctor AND the NFL appointed specialist.  You're wrong.  Give it up already.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-18-2019, 12:48 PM)XsandOs Wrote: Then you should have a discussion with any of the VA Centers of Excellence on HAs associated with TBI - related to imaging, diagnosis and classification.

You can reach out to either DC or the Maguire VA in Richmond where the coordinating chair sits.

I will not read your dissertation.

Then there is no excuse for you not knowing a concussion is a TBI.

Also, PTSD is it something which can’t be confirmed by imaging. Are all the veterans with PTSD malingering, also?

[BleedNOrange]

(10-18-2019, 12:26 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: In all seriousness, could this season be any worse? Could there be any more nightmares to deal with?

Sadly, this feel like a typical Bengal year.

[grampahol]

Folks..The news about anything Bengals related has to be true. I mean, after all, even Paul Guenther, former Bengals DC said that Burfict's suspension was the result of a massive witch hunt. 
Now where have we heard that kind of talk recently?  Beats me! 

Yup, absolutely..everything is just fake news and no reporter ever reports real stuff..

[*rfaulk34*]

(10-18-2019, 11:32 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Well, here it is from another source:


This is from the Cincinnati Enquirer:

"On The Enquirer’s Bengals Beat Podcast, it was reported that there was a belief around the team that Glenn doesn’t want to be in Cincinnati or play football for the Bengals and people in and out the locker room were questioning the legitimacy of Glenn’s prolonged concussion. Pro Football Talk’s report underscores the same information and includes a financial penalty."

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/10/17/cincinnati-bengals-discipline-left-tackle-cordy-glenn/4013181002/

I addressed this in post #169

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-18-2019, 01:46 PM)Whatever Wrote: I don't think you understand what non contact entails.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cincyjungle.com/platform/amp/2019/10/16/20917986/aj-green-injury-news-bengals-jaguars-report-cordy-glenn-geoff-marqise-lee

Glenn was listed as a Full Participant on the 10/16 Injury Report.  He could not be listed as a Full Participant unless he was cleared by both the team doctor AND the NFL appointed specialist.  You're wrong.  Give it up already.

Contact is sport specific that simulates game activity. For an offensive lineman, full contact would involve lining up across from a defensive lineman and blocking them at full speed the same as in a game. Can you show me video of Glenn in full pads blocking defensive lineman or linebackers at the second level also in full pads going full speed? Because if you can show me that, it proves I’m wrong.

[*rfaulk34*]

(10-18-2019, 02:32 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Contact is sport specific that simulates game activity. For an offensive lineman, full contact would involve lining up across from a defensive lineman and blocking them at full speed the same as in a game. Can you show me video of Glenn in full pads blocking defensive lineman or linebackers at the second level also in full pads going full speed? Because if you can show me that, it proves I’m wrong.

Taylor said in the presser that it was his first day in full pads.

[Catmandude123]

I would say eff Glenn and spend the 10 million on a player who wants to be here but Old Mikey boy would screw it up and give it to another Hart type player.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-18-2019, 02:33 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Taylor said in the presser that it was his first day in full pads.

And the video of Wednesday’s practice showed that Glenn wasn’t in full pads. The video also showed him doing an individual blocking drill. The video did not show full practice in full pads simulating game play consistent with step 5 of the return to play protocol. The video showed activity consistent with step 4.

[fredtoast]

Don't know if this was mentioned before, but when Glenn was with the Bills he missed time with an ankle issue and then when he returned he had issues with his feet. There was talk that Glenn was not pleased with the Bills because he felt the foot issues were caused returning too soon.

This can be seen either as proof he is a malcontent, or as proof that he has good reason t be concerned. It just depends on your already existing opinion of him.

[fredtoast]

(10-18-2019, 02:44 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: And the video of Wednesday’s practice showed that Glenn wasn’t in full pads. The video also showed him doing an individual blocking drill. The video did not show full practice in full pads simulating game play consistent with step 5 of the return to play protocol. The video showed activity consistent with step 4.

How long was the video?  

Maybe it just doesn't show the part of the practice where he was in full contact or full pads.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(10-18-2019, 02:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Don't know if this was mentioned before, but when Glenn was with the Bills he missed time with an ankle issue and then when he returned he had issues with his feet.  There was talk that Glenn was not pleased with the Bills because he felt the foot issues were caused returning too soon.

This can be seen either as proof he is a malcontent, or as proof that he has good reason t be concerned.  It just depends on your already existing opinion of him.

Interesting. I had no opinion of him one way or the other, really, just that he was better than what we've been trotting out there.

The whole deal seemed sketchy to me, and now even moreso. I'm not really sure what to make of it.

[oncemoreuntothejimbreech]

(10-18-2019, 02:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: How long was the video?  

Maybe it just doesn't show the part of the practice where he was in full contact or full pads.

It was just a short clip. It is possible he was in full pads doing full contact before or after the clip. Do players usually return to the locker to put their pads on?

If their is a clip of him doing full contact in full pads like game day then obviously my skepticism is wrong.