CB Mackensie Alexander Signed

[Nicomo Cosca]

Wonder why only one year though?

[Bengal Dude]

(03-20-2020, 12:22 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Wonder why only one year though?

Could be similar to Dennard last year. Didn't find the market he was hoping for and is taking a 1 year deal in hopes of finding that money next year.

I'm thrilled with this signing.

[McC]

(03-20-2020, 01:25 AM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Could be similar to Dennard last year. Didn't find the market he was hoping for and is taking a 1 year deal in hopes of finding that money next year.

I'm thrilled with this signing.

I have a good friend who has been a lifelong Vikings fan.  He is pissed.

[*SHRacerX*]

(03-19-2020, 12:22 PM)Au165 Wrote:

#Bengals may have found their slot CB in Mackensie Alexander.

Among slot CBs, he ranked 19th in two-year coverage grade and had the 4th-highest forced incompletion rate (via @PFF)

In 2018, he produced an 86.4 run defense grade and a 72.5 coverage grade, and was worth ~0.28 WAR.

— Evan McPhillips (@emcphil) March 19, 2020

This stood out to me on all the defensive signings...Tackling.  It seems to be an area of serious upgrade focus.  Good, because we sure sucked at it before.  

[*ochocincos*]

(03-19-2020, 08:46 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Can’t fix everything in one offseason. It’s a good start though.

True, but if they had done a better job last offseason, they probably could have finished it by this offseason 

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-20-2020, 10:23 AM)ochocincos Wrote: True, but if they had done a better job last offseason, they probably could have finished it by this offseason 

But then we might not be getting Joe Burrow...

[*ochocincos*]

(03-19-2020, 08:51 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: We did get Sua'-Filo and the Draft is deep with interior O-lineman.

The lack of Linebackers is the only thing that has me a bit on edge.

XSF is no better than John Miller. He's a stopgap who would be a backup if there were someone better on the roster.
Hopefully they find competition for XSF in Rds 2-4. As you said, the draft looks deep with IOL, but you still have to select a good one.
I really hope Jordan can blossom into the guy at LG the Bengals think he can, but that's a lot of gambling when you have no proven studs on your OL to help compensate.

[NATI BENGALS]

(03-20-2020, 01:55 AM)McC Wrote: I have a good friend who has been a lifelong Vikings fan.  He is pissed.

I would like to personally thank Mike Zimmer for coaching up our future stud corners.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-20-2020, 12:09 AM)BengalChris Wrote: Think of the movie Weekend at Burnie's. They've got Mikey's corpse propped up behind his desk. It's either that or aliens have taken control of his body.

  Funny show, classic.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-20-2020, 10:38 AM)ochocincos Wrote: XSF is no better than John Miller. He's a stopgap who would be a backup if there were someone better on the roster.
Hopefully they find competition for XSF in Rds 2-4. As you said, the draft looks deep with IOL, but you still have to select a good one.
I really hope Jordan can blossom into the guy at LG the Bengals think he can, but that's a lot of gambling when you have no proven studs on your OL to help compensate.

Disagree, according to PFF he is better than Miller. Plus, it took him a bit to grow into his body. Lots of Cowboy fans were
sad to see him go and the way he just B slapped Fletcher Cox to the ground like that makes me understand why. Still need
much more help on the O-line but XSF is a decent start.

[McC]

(03-20-2020, 01:15 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote:   Funny show, classic.

With all due respect, that might well be the stupidest movie anybody ever made.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-20-2020, 01:17 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Disagree, according to PFF he is better than Miller. Plus, it took him a bit to grow into his body. Lots of Cowboy fans were
sad to see him go and the way he just B slapped Fletcher Cox to the ground like that makes me understand why. Still need
much more help on the O-line but XSF is a decent start.

As a pass blocker, yes, but only for 2019.
As a run blocker, definitely not.

2016-2018, John Miller actually had better pass blocking (and run blocking) grades than XSF did.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-20-2020, 01:17 PM)McC Wrote: With all due respect, that might well be the stupidest movie anybody ever made.

There were a lot of stupid movies in the 80's I liked. I was a kid.

(03-20-2020, 01:25 PM)ochocincos Wrote: As a pass blocker, yes, but only for 2019.
As a run blocker, definitely not.

2016-2018, John Miller actually had better pass blocking (and run blocking) grades than XSF did.

True, but XSF hadn't grown into his body yet. I think we got him right when he is coming into his own.

Tell me that B slapping Fletcher Cox to the ground like that didn't impress you...

[Housh]

Just makes me want Dennard even more. You can never have too many corners in today’s passing league.

[*ochocincos*]

(03-20-2020, 01:39 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: There were a lot of stupid movies in the 80's I liked. I was a kid.



True, but XSF hadn't grown into his body yet. I think we got him right when he is coming into his own.

Tell me that B slapping Fletcher Cox to the ground like that didn't impress you...

Why do you keep saying this?
The guy is 29 years old and has been in the league since 2014.
I highly doubt he still is "growing into his body."

And no, the slapping Cox to the ground doesn't impress me. That's like saying Jerome Simpson is gonna be great because of his flip over the defender and landing in the end zone.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-20-2020, 02:11 PM)Housh Wrote: Just makes me want Dennard even more. You can never have too many corners in today’s passing league.

Dennard is on the Jags.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-20-2020, 02:15 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Why do you keep saying this?
The guy is 29 years old and has been in the league since 2014.
I highly doubt he still is "growing into his body."

Just heard he didn't have a good training facility in college and it took till the last year or so to really start showing his strength.

Sometimes it takes O-lineman a little time to grow into good players, some are projects, do you disagree?

[*ochocincos*]

(03-20-2020, 02:18 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Just heard he didn't have a good training facility in college and it took till the last year or so to really start showing his strength.

Sometimes it takes O-lineman a little time to grow into good players, some are projects, do you disagree?

When coming right out of college being under 25, I agree it can take a couple years to grow into your body.
However, the dude has been in the league 5 years and is 29 years old. He's had plenty of time in an NFL weight room and program to bulk up and mature.
So for him specifically, I don't think he's likely to grow well beyond where he already is.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-20-2020, 02:31 PM)ochocincos Wrote: When coming right out of college being under 25, I agree it can take a couple years to grow into your body.
However, the dude has been in the league 5 years and is 29 years old. He's had plenty of time in an NFL weight room and program to bulk up and mature.
So for him specifically, I don't think he's likely to grow well beyond where he already is.

Fair enough, I just don't think he made his jump in play last year for no reason.

[Bengal Dude]

(03-20-2020, 01:55 AM)McC Wrote: I have a good friend who has been a lifelong Vikings fan.  He is pissed.

Understandable.

Alexander doesn't quite have he physicality of Dennard, but he has some more speed so we should hopefully see a decrease in long pass completions out of the slot. I have a feeling that many of us are going to be clamoring to re-sign Alexander next year.