04-02-2021, 09:57 PM
(04-01-2021, 06:56 PM)BobJones4980 Wrote: Admittedly I haven't been able to keep up with the draft much this year but what is it that makes Pitts such an amazing prospect?
I keep seeing people say thing like generational talent, comparing him to Megatron and other things, and I've seen some highlights and he looks really good but you say you've never seen it at TE but when I watch him I see Darren Waller. Not a knock on him at all, having a threat like Waller would be amazing but I don't see this Megatron of TEs or a generational talent like some.
Again not trying to disagree with you just haven't been able to invest much time in the draft this year due to work and I am curious what separates him from a guy like Waller that makes him SO much more amazing than the elite TE prospects in the last decade?
Man, love your Draft thoughts Bob. Too bad you haven't been able to keep up with the Draft this year. Great year of
prospects and the best of the lot in my opinion is Kyle Pitts just like last year was Joe Burrow. Think this man can be
great just the same. This guy Pitts is even more impressive than Calvin Johnson coming out with his size, hands, route
running, speed and versatility to also play TE in a pinch.
(04-02-2021, 12:28 AM)BengalChris Wrote: Interesting view. Not something that I considered.
Consider it Chris.
Think the Falcons will take him anyways, but if they don't I think we should take him over Chase and we will score lots of TD's.
(04-02-2021, 09:24 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: I am not as much in the Pitts fan club, but LOVE picks 2-5. I might take the versatile, tough, and lightning-quick Eskridge if he was there in the 5th instead. That kid won me over at the Senior Bowl. He would immediately give the Bengals a massive upgrade on punt and kick returns.
If we could get Eskridge that late I would be very surprised. Feel the same way about him.
(04-02-2021, 11:09 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: His phyical attributes are insane. It's more than just size. It's size with those numbers (6'6, 246, 4.44, etc).
Calvin Johnson may very well be the biggest physical freak in the history of the game. And despite playing on some bad teams, and some injuries, he's one of biggest and best talents to ever play his position. The fact that Kyle Pitts is even in the same ballpark speaks to the type of athlete he is.
Fwiw, Pitts is an inch taller than Calvin Johnson, he's 10 pounds heavier, his wingspan is bigger, and his handsize is almost a full inch bigger. Now, I'm mainly writing this just to show that while he's a little slower and his vert isn't quite as high, he's also a slightly different type of player.
As far his production, I would argue it was pretty crazy. You say most of it came only in the last two years. Well, yeah. He's a junior. Few if any skill position players produce a ton as true Freshman in the SEC (look at Ja'marr Chase for an example). You also have to remember that this past year only featured 8 games for him.
Pitts, playing against nothing but SEC talent, caught 43 balls for 770 yards and 12 TD's in only 8 games. In a typical 13 game, non-Covid season, this projects to 1,251 yards and 20 TD's. And that's projected against all SEC teams. Throw in a couple of weaker non-conference games and those numbers probably go up either further.
Instead of just comparing him physically to someone like Calvin Johnson, let's compare him to someone like AJ Green. Just to put into persepctive some of these pro day numbers from a man this size:
Height
Green - 6' 3.5
Pitts - 6' 5.5
Weight
Green - 208
Pitts - 246
40
Green - 4.48
Pitts - 4.44
Vert
Green - 34.5
Pitts - 33.5
Broad Jump
Green - 126 inches
Pitts - 129 inches
Hand Size
Green - 9.25 in
Pitts - 10.575 in
So when you think of Kyle Pitts athleticism, basically just think of AJ Green, that's two inches taller, 40 pounds heavier, with bigger hands and a bigger wingspan. That's the type of number Kyle Pitts just put up.
To each their own, if you prefer Chase or Sewell then that's fine. But when you say Chase tests off the charts and produces in the tougher conference in football, the same can be said for this guy too.
Great post Wes, just fantastic post.
Pitts could be the next greatest offensive weapon.
(04-02-2021, 02:04 PM)masterpanthera_t Wrote: To add to your comments, I'd like to see how KP compares against Kittle and Kelce. If he blows them away, athleticism wise, then that is a much more truer judgement of his value than comparing him to Calvin. But from the numbers you've shown, it's already looking like Pitts is unguardable by safeties and linebackers, but I would add even #2 CBs of almost every team (except if a team has two high end CBs who are at high end #1 level). So, he will open things up for the rest of the offense by forcing the defense to roll special coverage. And if they don't, then he will dominate.
At this point, while I'm still leaning towards taking Sewell, the board has me convinced Chase, Pitts, or Sewell would all be great picks. Of course most of us are not scouts. All things being equal I would choose to pick OL, but I don't think we know that all things are equal. At this point, if you told me that only one of those three guys would be a perennial All Pro/ HOF caliber player, I want that one player regardless of position.
Based on stuff being written on this board, I am questioning which one would be that player. I was of the opinion it would be Sewell, but now I think it might actually be Pitts, given some questions people have raised about Sewell. I am fairly certain that while Chase could turn out to be a good to great player, he's not going to be a HOF type. Just an opinion. I think it's almost just as likely that the best WR in this draft ends up being a guy going in round 2 or later.
I almost want to pick Pitts and go OL in the 2nd round now. And the coaches would simply have to change the offense to suit KP's skills. If he is that good, then coaching had to change the offense to take advantage of all the mismatches he would bring. Simple as that. No excuses about our offense doesn't use TEs as a focus.
Another epic post Master P.
The thing about Pitts is that everybody should be wanting this player after the Reiff and Spain signings.
The Draft is deep at OT.
(04-02-2021, 02:31 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Pitts at 5 over Sewell makes more sense then Chase at 5 over Sewell. Pitts is certainly a unique talent. Chase is good, but not exactly unique in NFL terms.
True IMHO.
