Burrow and 17 game seasons for 18 years?

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(04-03-2021, 03:44 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Eh, I don't know about that, LL.

Peyton's first 6 years looked like this:

3739 yards - 26 TDs - 28 INTs - 71.2 rating
4135 yards - 26 TDs - 15 INTs - 90.7 rating
4413 yards - 33 TDs - 15 INTs - 94.7 rating
4131 yards - 26 TDs - 23 INTs - 84.1 rating
4200 yards - 27 TDs - 19 INTs - 88.8 rating
4267 yards - 29 TDs - 10 INTs - 99.0 rating

His ranks...

Passer rating
23rd
4th
6th
8th
5th
2nd

Yards
3rd
3rd
1st
2nd
3rd
1st

TDs
5th
3rd
1st
5th
2nd
2nd

INTs
1st
9th
9th
2nd
3rd
26th

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He threw a lot of picks back then, but he was most def an elite top 3 QB from year 2 onward.

That's why he used to get roasted so hard for the one-n-dones.

He was also a .500 starter his first 4 years, and I just can't get over the fact he averaged 20 INT/yr his first 5 years.

He also had a stacked offense early in his career. Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edgerrin James, Ken Dilger, Marcus Pollard... it would be hard to NOT put up accumulation numbers with those guys in your offense.

Was he good? Sure, but was he Peyton Manning good? Not really, until Year 6 onwards.

Year 1-5: 62.1% completion, 7.3 YPA, 1.4 TD/1 INT, 85.9 QB Rating
Year 6-10: 66.4% completion, 8.1 YPA, 3.2 TD/1 INT, 104.4 QB Rating


If you look at PFR, they actually do have a QB Rating+ stat now for QBs, so anything below 100 is that % below average and anything above 100 is that % above average.

Manning
Yr1: 93
Yr2: 115
Yr3: 123
Yr4: 107
Yr5: 115

He was above average yr2-4, but really only yr3 was great. Then...

Yr6: 124
Yr7: 151 (led NFL)
Yr8: 129 (led NFL)
Yr9: 126 (led NFL)
Yr10: 122

In fact, if you look at the Adjusted Passing part of his page..
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00.htm

...You will see that the only black ink (led the league that year) he has the first 5 years is attempts his rookie year. Then starting at the 6th year you start seeing a whole lot of black ink pop up.


(EDIT: Also worth noting that Yr6 was also 2003, the year he won his first playoff game and broke his 0-fer streak.)