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Ring of honor
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(04-09-2021, 03:23 PM)masterpanthera_t Wrote: I won't disagree with you too much here.  I like the energy and genuine fan like perspective she brings. There's probably some truth to the comment about toxicity in the culture. 

BUT

When viewed from the perspective of how much time these changes took to be brought forward, how other parts of the core end of the organization has still mostly stuck with the non effective methods,  the fleecing of the city in getting a sweetheart deal etc., I can understand the argument of a large contingency of fans feeling as if these measures that Elizabeth is bringing forth are LONG OVERDUE. In that sense while it's refreshing in comparison to what people have seen for decades,  just how much credit should be given to measures which fans have deserved for many decades finally being given in such a delayed fashion? One might even view it with some skepticism in light of the fact that the stadium lease is up in five ish years.

With all that said,  almost none of it is a reflection on EB. She genuinely feels more like us fans in comparison to the shrewd and aloof previous generations of her family.  I do appreciate her.  But when considering the economics of the billion dollar business that is an NFL franchise,  fans cannot be faulted for questioning the delay in such engagement and the timing.  Not to mention we haven't seen such changes in the approach to the football side of running the franchise. A part where unfortunately EB doesn't have much,  if any input. 

Again,  I am happy that EB is engaging with the fans this way and will credit her appropriately,  however,  I also feel  things must be measuredly put in the proper perspective. Basically,  in not ready to say "All hail anyone from the Brown family" just yet. 

Agree wholeheartedly. I completely see the other side of it and it is a valid attitude to have... but take it up with her parents and Grandfather.

I also am not on the, "Hail Queen," side that Ocho wrote above LOL, but from what I take from it, she's a person who has been gaining feedback for a few years now, mingling and getting a, "beat from the street," vibe from fans on Social Media, in-person, etc., etc., she's listened and has tried (and succeeded, for that matter) to get a RoH going, tried to boost fan engagement, change jerseys into a more-modern look and style (we hope lol) and she's been able to achieve those goals in only a year and a bit. These are the things that Elizabeth Blackburn can control and try to make a difference for, DIRECTLY. And she does it with clear, genuine, affection and excitement for the team and the fanbase. When Mike Brown, Troy and Katie Blackburn, "don't want to hire a GM, build a practice facility, etc.," the younger Blackburn should NOT have to deal with the toxicity and vitriol that the fanbase has spewed at her.

This renewed enthusiasm should be, not celebrated per se, but recognized as a sign that some things are indeed changing for the better and that someone in that building is trying to get fans requests/wishes to be taken seriously, even if the rest of the building couldn't care less about what the fans want (not saying that is the case here, either). Onward and upward, not toxic and crybaby, while remaining stagnant. Direct that attitude to the people who are directly responsible, not the person who's trying to do good by the fanbase, in the only ways she can.

Just because she comes across and young, full of energy and enthusiasm and hope, doesn't mean that the toxic pricks of our fanbase, need to tear her down on social media or just be rude in general.

I personally think that people are just insanely jealous; yes she's had significantly more means, opportunities, privileges and wealth than our entire fanbase: she's been dealt a better hand in life than all of us. Deal with it. At least she spent her weekends watching the team she loved, instead of getting coked out and drunk with other college students.

The entire organization in the midst of a revolution and even if the product's goals haven't been realized yet (I believe they will), the other aspects are already evolving at a promising rate.
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Ring of honor - sloSTI - 04-08-2021, 10:04 AM
RE: Ring of honor - wcu - 04-08-2021, 10:07 AM
RE: Ring of honor - ochocincos - 04-08-2021, 10:19 AM
RE: Ring of honor - jason - 04-08-2021, 10:30 AM
RE: Ring of honor - pally - 04-08-2021, 10:47 AM
RE: Ring of honor - ochocincos - 04-08-2021, 10:49 AM
RE: Ring of honor - rfaulk34 - 04-08-2021, 12:32 PM
RE: Ring of honor - jason - 04-08-2021, 11:04 AM
RE: Ring of honor - Wyche'sWarrior - 04-08-2021, 11:35 AM
RE: Ring of honor - jason - 04-08-2021, 01:35 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Wyche'sWarrior - 04-08-2021, 10:16 PM
RE: Ring of honor - XenoMorph - 04-08-2021, 01:08 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Sled21 - 04-08-2021, 02:05 PM
RE: Ring of honor - jason - 04-08-2021, 02:14 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Sled21 - 04-08-2021, 03:53 PM
RE: Ring of honor - jason - 04-08-2021, 04:46 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Roland - 04-09-2021, 11:59 AM
RE: Ring of honor - Earendil - 04-08-2021, 04:30 PM
RE: Ring of honor - psychdoctor - 04-08-2021, 04:40 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Speedy Thomas - 04-08-2021, 10:23 AM
RE: Ring of honor - Roland - 04-08-2021, 10:27 AM
RE: Ring of honor - Luvnit2 - 04-08-2021, 10:36 AM
RE: Ring of honor - sloSTI - 04-08-2021, 10:38 AM
RE: Ring of honor - pally - 04-08-2021, 10:55 AM
RE: Ring of honor - Schmitbuck - 04-08-2021, 11:08 AM
RE: Ring of honor - Speedy Thomas - 04-08-2021, 11:45 AM
RE: Ring of honor - Earendil - 04-08-2021, 11:09 AM
RE: Ring of honor - Clark W Griswold - 04-08-2021, 11:23 AM
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RE: Ring of honor - Clark W Griswold - 04-09-2021, 12:29 PM
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RE: Ring of honor - KillerGoose - 04-09-2021, 01:02 PM
RE: Ring of honor - ochocincos - 04-09-2021, 02:13 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Truck_1_0_1_ - 04-09-2021, 02:51 PM
RE: Ring of honor - AQIndianHill - 04-09-2021, 03:20 PM
RE: Ring of honor - masterpanthera_t - 04-09-2021, 03:23 PM
RE: Ring of honor - ochocincos - 04-09-2021, 03:53 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Truck_1_0_1_ - 04-09-2021, 03:23 PM
RE: Ring of honor - masterpanthera_t - 04-09-2021, 03:27 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Truck_1_0_1_ - 04-09-2021, 03:45 PM
RE: Ring of honor - masterpanthera_t - 04-09-2021, 04:10 PM
RE: Ring of honor - Shake n Blake - 04-09-2021, 04:56 PM
RE: Ring of honor - ochocincos - 04-09-2021, 05:00 PM
RE: Ring of honor - masterpanthera_t - 04-09-2021, 05:08 PM
RE: Ring of honor - ochocincos - 04-09-2021, 05:29 PM
RE: Ring of honor - masterpanthera_t - 04-09-2021, 06:30 PM
RE: Ring of honor - rfaulk34 - 04-09-2021, 11:52 PM
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