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(04-10-2021, 09:18 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I am not "Obfuscating" anything.  I am just pointing out that the Bengals are not a cheap team when it come to paying their players.

Claiming the Bengals spend over the league salary cap while ignoring their adjusted salary cap is $10-15M above the league salary cap is obfuscation.

Quote:There are people on here who think the Bengals are always at the top of the league in unused cap space and that is not true.

Straw man. Not a single person in this thread has claimed this.

Quote:There are people where who think the Bengals pocket all the cap space they don't use and that is not true.

Straw man. Not a single person in this thread has claimed this.

Quote:Everyone needs to look at the numbers and see what all the other teams in the league do instead of just bashing the Bengals for being cheap.  Since you are such an expert on this then give me a list of all the NFL teams that use all their cap space every year.

Asking someone to take a $2M pay cut when you have $23M in unused cap space and no plan on how to use the $2M is cheap.

Quote:And the offer to Whitworth was about years not total salary.  So cap space had nothing to do with that.

It was about both because years, salary, guarantees, and cap hits are all linked.

Cap space was irrelevant? Gimme a f’n break.
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