Mike Greenberg on 1530 today.

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(04-21-2021, 02:31 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I could not possibly disagree with you anymore on everything you just said.

WR is not top heavy. I see 10 to 12 really great WRs that will contribute in this draft. and stand by my belief when it is all said and done and we look back at this draft Dyami Brown will be one of the best WRs in this draft. He is projected in the 2nd round.

I like Dyami Brown, but you listed 10-12 "really great" WRs.  Can you list more that you are sure will be there in Rd 2 that are NOT slot WRs, but outside WRs that can get open quickly and have great downfield ball-tracking skills?  This is the biggest area of need for the offense when it comes to threatening all parts of the field.  

The offensive line talent goes deep sure... but for "solid" type of guys and decent type of guys. But guys with the high ceiling and abilities of Sewell and Slater..... that is the end of the list.

Not true at all.  Darrisaw, Cosmi, Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Jenkins, Mayfield, Radunz are all likely top 50 picks.  The high ceiling and abilities you list for Slater and Sewell are not exclusive to them.  They both have length question marks and Sewell played a poor level of competition.  He had some struggles when he faced Auburn.  Every talking head says the same things about Sewell:  He is so big, carries the weight so well, and moves so quickly for a big man.  Well, Spencer Brown is BIGGER, MORE ATHLETIC, and STRONGER.  Brown had a short shuttle time faster than some running backs.  Why is he not the #1 OT on the board.  Because of technique and level of competition.  And I LOVE Brown as a developmental RT.  Would I love Sewell or Slater in stripes?  Yes.  Will I use the #5 overall pick for a guy that will likely start at RG and (hopefully) be our RT of the future?  No.  

Reiff would move to RG (as he has said he is willing to and has played there before plus, he is on a 1 year deal) and anyone that counts on Jonah as our long-term LT has faith in a total unknown that can't stay on the field. Sewell projects as a LT, if you are selling him as less then that, it is purely a bias for Chase, nothing else.

On this team, I am not moving Jonah from LT.  He played very well in what was essentially his rookie season with an absolute zero next to him at LG.  Hated the scheme and coach as well.  I am not saying Sewell is a RT, but on this team that is his best fit.  He hasn't played in over a year and I am not starting him week 1 at LT.  

Chase opens up the offense? No more then any other WR we draft that can run a deep route. Pitts would open it up more, Sewell would open it up more. Chase can provide the explosive play from time to time, but at 6 feet tall, he isn't some unique target like Pitts would be. As for Sewell, having a line that can open up running lanes and provide a clean pocket does more for the offense then any one skill player.   

Pitts is a heck of an athlete, but the Bengals simply don't operate with a TE in 11 personnel more than any NFL team.  He also doesn't have close to the short-space quickness of Chase.  Chase was one of two athletes that posted a sub 4-second short shuttle. If you know anything about WRs and abilities to run routes and create separation, that is a vital skill.  Chase is also ridiculously strong for a WR.  He benched 225 a whopping 22 times.  That beat a lot of offensive linemen.  

Sewell and "any WR" doesn't open up the offense like Chase.  That is just plain stupid.  An outside WR needs to get safeties to drop because they fear his deep speed.  Slot WRs don't force them back and neither do G or RT.  Think of what Chad in his prime did for TJ.   The Bengals current "any" WRs couldn't get separation and open quickly enough against pitt and baltimore...two division foes that we will see twice.  They shut down Boyd and Higgins.  Especially Baltimore.  Because they have outstanding depth at CB and safety.  The Bengals need another weapon to attack those teams.  

Drafting Chase is building backwards, this is what bad teams do... see the Raiders and Lions, who dumped all kinds of draft capital into 1st round WRs when they had bad teams. Guess what they won... that would be nothing.

It would be if they did nothing else.  But they drafted Price in the first round.  They drafted WIlliams in the first round.  They signed Reiff.  They signed XSF and Spain.  And in this draft, they would absolutely draft another offensive line player.  Aside from Chase, this draft could be labeled "trench warfare", as I could see the remainder of their picks being on two OTs, a G, and DT/DEs.  

Smart teams. Build lines, get franchise QB, and supply him with weapons after. 

So, if we want to be a dumb team, poorly built and waste 2021 for no reason, draft Chase.

Again, this is not being dumb.  It is providing an outstanding weapon for a team that started to hit its stride offensively when the guard positions were settled last year.  If you truly look inside the numbers (they have been posted on here), you would see that the offensive line played close to average down the stretch last year.  And that with a horrible defense that had them behind in many games.  I would not say drafting Sewell is dumb, but I say drafting Chase at #5 and the likes of Leatherwood in Rd 2 is better.  

Want to have a shot to win one day? Draft Sewell and Meinerz or Cleveland to shore up the line for the next 7 to 10 years and get anyone of the top 5 WRs next year who all will be labeled just as high as Chase. For example, George Pickens will be labeled the next A.J. Green as he comes out of Georgia. 

I think you are just saying "offensive line" and just not saying "WR" because you simply haven't truly looked at the players at each position.  You heard someone say Sewell is the next Anthony Munoz and probably set in your mind that is the only way the Bengals can get back to the Super Bowl.  Chase is so much more than just a WR.  He has an attitude.  He is a team-first guy that Burrow raves about his dedication and his leadership.  If you look up PFF ratings for deep passes (those that traveled over 20 yards in the air), Chase scored a ridiculous 99.0.  He literally had one drop.  19 receptions with something like 7 TDs.  That rating is better than most WRs had on passes at the LOS.  I struggled to see where Ross went wrong, from a purely football standpoint, and I recalled a lot of deep balls being so poorly underthrown that he would have to stop, catch the ball, and then start again. I thought with a better QB, he would be unstoppable, but it appears that he struggles to catch the ball while in motion.  Some athletes heads are very steady at top speed, allowing their eyes to stay focused.  Ross must not have that ability, but Chase....he tracks balls with uncanny accuracy and his incredible athleticism, toughness, and drive make him a lethal combination.   If the Bengals draft him, and Higgins and Boyd stay healthy all season (along with Chase), I will tell you right now that the Bengals will make the playoffs and they will all have over 1000 yards receiving.  

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