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Joey B talks to Collinsworth
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(04-22-2021, 04:17 PM)TJ528 Wrote: Well I mean what's the draft been like without Marvin?  just sayin....

Tobin makes the decisions and the worst decision this organization has ever made was letting Whit walk. 

I truly think that was the end of the road for Marvin in Cincinnati.   

i think Marvin wanted Whit to stay and when the organization let him walk at the end of 2016 thats when the losing started.  

Drafts have been doo doo, I admit. Still, Tobin has been "GM" for 20+ years, which is unprecedented. He may have been good in 2001, but awful in 2017. Who knows?

I don't think dumping Whit was a bad move. Not without hindsight benefit. He was 35. How could anyone know he'd be the exception to the aging rule?

The real mistake there (IMO) is that we hadn't fired Paul Alexander way sooner, and we were instead giving him power in the draft, which led to Ogbuehi, Fisher and Bodine all busting.

That made moving on from Whit a disaster.
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Joey B talks to Collinsworth - pally - 04-20-2021, 10:41 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Benton - 04-21-2021, 12:01 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - bfine32 - 04-21-2021, 01:03 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - tms - 04-21-2021, 02:08 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-21-2021, 12:57 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Stewy - 04-21-2021, 01:09 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-21-2021, 02:38 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-21-2021, 04:39 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-21-2021, 04:49 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-21-2021, 04:50 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-21-2021, 04:58 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-21-2021, 05:06 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 01:18 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 10:33 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 11:06 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 11:15 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 12:12 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 11:30 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 11:33 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 11:39 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 11:47 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 12:25 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 12:34 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 12:02 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - bfine32 - 04-22-2021, 12:46 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 08:53 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - bfine32 - 04-21-2021, 12:12 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Big_Ern - 04-21-2021, 12:18 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - ah5 - 04-21-2021, 11:43 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - bfine32 - 04-21-2021, 03:23 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-22-2021, 01:10 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - tms - 04-22-2021, 08:01 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 12:25 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 12:32 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 12:36 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 01:16 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 06:56 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 08:55 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 01:27 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 02:31 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 12:27 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 01:12 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 01:07 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 01:34 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 02:34 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 08:32 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 02:34 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - shanebo - 04-22-2021, 02:20 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 03:56 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 08:36 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 09:26 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-23-2021, 09:40 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-23-2021, 10:37 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-23-2021, 11:26 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-23-2021, 12:18 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 01:39 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 04:22 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 01:40 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-23-2021, 08:59 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 04:17 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Shake n Blake - 04-22-2021, 04:38 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 05:01 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 06:17 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Joelist - 04-22-2021, 07:12 PM
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