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Joey B talks to Collinsworth
(04-23-2021, 11:26 AM)PDub80 Wrote: I'll stand by that. The biggest difference that helped Andy is that he had way way way better talent around him for most of his career. They were similar players all the way down to the way they both randomly fumbled in a playoff game for the Bengals without anyone even touching them. Dalton did it in the regular season, too. Similar arm strength. The exact same size (6-2/220). Similar completion %. John Kitna didn't get a prime #1 WR, either. He had a banged up Joey Galloway in 1999 for 8 games. Galloway only started 4. I just finished looking up stats between the two players. Dalton had supremely more talented, prime teams to work with and has a QB Rating of 87.5 compared to Kitna's 77.4.

Hell, they were both backups for the Cowboys and BOTH went 4-5 the first year with Dallas. And both were super nice guys.

I don't see much difference at all. Dalton's shortcomings were helped by the roster around him, Kitna's were not. It's really quite simple to see they are the same player.

Didn't Kitna hold his own pretty well in the playoff game that Palmer got his knee shredded on the first play?

Also, I would say I think Kitna had a higher football IQ then Dalton. If Kitna had the talent of a guy like Palmer, he'd have had an amazing career with his ability to figure out defenses.

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Joey B talks to Collinsworth - pally - 04-20-2021, 10:41 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Benton - 04-21-2021, 12:01 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - bfine32 - 04-21-2021, 01:03 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - tms - 04-21-2021, 02:08 AM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-21-2021, 02:38 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-21-2021, 04:39 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-21-2021, 04:49 PM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-21-2021, 04:58 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-21-2021, 05:06 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 01:18 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 10:33 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 11:06 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 11:15 AM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 11:30 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 11:33 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 11:39 AM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 12:25 PM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 12:32 PM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 01:16 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 06:56 PM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 01:27 PM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 12:27 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 01:12 PM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-22-2021, 01:34 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 02:34 PM
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RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-22-2021, 03:56 PM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 08:36 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - Sled21 - 04-23-2021, 09:26 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-23-2021, 09:40 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - TJ528 - 04-23-2021, 10:37 AM
RE: Joey B talks to Collinsworth - PDub80 - 04-23-2021, 11:26 AM
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