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(04-28-2021, 10:57 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: WR's have the shortest average career length of all positions in the NFL.  RB's are next.

So it is true, Tight Ends have, on average, longer careers than WR's.  Also, I wasn't just talking about career length but level of play at an advanced age.  Kelce just put up career highs in every single category at the age of 31.  You don't find too many WR's that can claim the same.

My point, I think still stands, if Kyle Pitts slows down a bit (from 4.44) the chances are he's still more than serviceable at his position.  He's so far ahead speedwise at his position that even slowing down leaves with decent measurables in comparison.  He's still 6'6.  If Jamar Chase slows down he's in a sea of 6'1 receivers who run over a 4.4.  I think that's a little different.

Only according to the numbers that the NFL put out a few years ago that I think you're referring to, which includes all the PS and ST chaff. 


But we aren't talking about PS guys and STs, so those numbers are useless. Of course there's more rotation at the bottom of the roster for WRs than TEs, because you carry more, and you draft more (the 2020 draft had 35 WRs, 12 TEs). They also tend to be your returners and gunners on ST.

Over the last 11 drafts (since 2010) the Bengals have taken 7 WRs and 1 TE in the 6th and 7th rounds

You were talking the greats. You even made a list of some of the best TEs to play with ages. So there's no point in adding Quan Cosbys into the equation.

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Lets be honest, the 4.44 is total BS. There's more people running in the 4.3s this offseason than there seemingly has ever been. Pro Day 40s have always been white noise at best, and it's more so this season. Pitts is 100% a fast dude, and freakishly fast for his size, no doubt. I just have no tolerance for 40 times that aren't combine times, and even those don't really fully translate to playing speed.

Also, you are forgetting something important. Once Pitts slows down he can be covered by a LB. Once Chase slows down he still has to be covered by a CB. That completely removes the defensive personnel imbalance that a fast TE creates in the first place.

(04-28-2021, 11:17 AM)Au165 Wrote: A little bit of a scheme change but also his targets increased, it was more of a usage thing as his yards per target had actually been higher at other points in his career. Would he be as good on another team? Maybe. If we are judging it by his yards per target rather than a volume stat of total yards I think he would be. 

Most people compare him to Waller, and that is a really fair comp of a guy on maybe a limited offense producing really well. I think most people would take Darren Waller in the top 5 of a draft if you knew you could get that production (minus the personal issues). 

Keep in mind that it took both Waller and Kelce 4 years each to get a 1,000+ yard season. A WR having 1,000+ yards as a rookie isn't unusual at all.