05-16-2021, 10:15 AM
(05-15-2021, 04:34 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 4th rounders under Zac Taylor:
Ryan Finley
Renell Wren
Michael Jordan
Akeem Davis-Gaither
(Plus the 3 this year.)
They're certainly going for saturation. 3 drafts under Taylor, 7 guys taken in the 4th round.
(05-15-2021, 05:33 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I do like the ADG pick and the picks this year. The Finley and Jordan picks were shit though, jury still out on Wren.
(05-15-2021, 06:44 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Finley pick still blows my mind. Not just a 4th round pick, but they also gave up two 6th round picks to move up and get him on top of that. Did nobody from the Bengals ever watch him throw before they drafted him? His arm is clearly not an NFL caliber arm, and his NFL rookie year was his age 25 year, so it's not like he was 20-21 and could potentially grow into a stronger arm.
Not sure how much stock you put in PFF, but ADG had a 40.7 rating last year. Granted I don't know if the kid's getting a fair shake since Anarumo is his DC.
(05-15-2021, 06:57 PM)Synric Wrote: I know you're a google scout but Ryan Finley upped his draft stock during his process. He was the best QB during the senior bowl which included Giants first round pick Daniel Jones.
ADG started rough which is expected considering he wasnt a traditional LB in college and didnt have a real offseason. Year 2 and 3 will be big for him in the Pros.
Edit: Renell Wren is still a mystery. He has the talent, build, athleticism of a top NFL player. That is a guy I'm hoping can take his game to the next level in year 3.
Fun fact: Most teams miss on 4th round picks and beyond. To be mad at the Bengals for it is unreasonable. To be listing ADG as a 4th round bust (is there such a thing?) isn't fair, IMO. Wren has been good when healthy. Tough to hate on a guy due to injuries if he is good when healthy.
The Finley trade is an interesting debate. Are 2 6ths worth taking a chance on a QB that flashed traits you're looking for? I think so, yes. My question is: What traits were they so enamored with and who identified them in Finley? Were they looking for Andy Dalton? In a dream scenario, the ceiling at best on Finley was going to be Andy Dalton and that just isn't going to get it done regardless of Finley reaching his potential or not.
Although, Finley sure did look amazing in some live preseason action. I was always on team Dolegala, though. I thought he had a higher ceiling with development due to arm talent.
Personally, due to the staff being assembled so late in the process, I give ZT a 100% pass on the 2019 draft. Good or bad picks, it doesn't matter. I give him no credit or bad marks because I think he had little input and, even if he did have big input, is it really fair to weight that input very heavily since he was given little time to study before the test, so to speak? To me... NO, it isn't reasonable.
The 2020 draft was amazing by all accounts and I love 2021 on paper. Those drafts ZT's staff had time to work on and I think those are more fair to review.
