Comp Pick Projection

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(05-15-2021, 09:39 PM)Synric Wrote: Ryan Finley won QB of the week at the Senior Bowl. It was in Jim Nagy's tweets but it's a few years back.

This is a solid breakdown of the week though.

He practiced well, cool. Who did the best in the actual game, against actual tackling, against actual competition?


https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jones-claims-mvp-as-north-wins-senior-bowl-0ap3000001013589
https://www.giants.com/photos/daniel-jones-named-mvp-of-2019-senior-bowl#4d14a3e7-053c-4f2a-b43a-c71c9959418f
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gantplayer/2019/01/30/daniel-jones-was-named-senior-bowl-mvp-so-naturally-drew-lock-will-have-a-better-career/?sh=4341c4903bb8

(05-16-2021, 10:15 AM)PDub80 Wrote: Fun fact: Most teams miss on 4th round picks and beyond. To be mad at the Bengals for it is unreasonable. To be listing ADG as a 4th round bust (is there such a thing?) isn't fair, IMO. Wren has been good when healthy. Tough to hate on a guy due to injuries if he is good when healthy.

The Finley trade is an interesting debate. Are 2 6ths worth taking a chance on a QB that flashed traits you're looking for? I think so, yes. My question is: What traits were they so enamored with and who identified them in Finley? Were they looking for Andy Dalton? In a dream scenario, the ceiling at best on Finley was going to be Andy Dalton and that just isn't going to get it done regardless of Finley reaching his potential or not.

Although, Finley sure did look amazing in some live preseason action. I was always on team Dolegala, though. I thought he had a higher ceiling with development due to arm talent.

Personally, due to the staff being assembled so late in the process, I give ZT a 100% pass on the 2019 draft. Good or bad picks, it doesn't matter. I give him no credit or bad marks because I think he had little input and, even if he did have big input, is it really fair to weight that input very heavily since he was given little time to study before the test, so to speak? To me... NO, it isn't reasonable.

The 2020 draft was amazing by all accounts and I love 2021 on paper. Those drafts ZT's staff had time to work on and I think those are more fair to review.

That wasn't a list of 4th round busts, PDub, that was just a list of 4th rounders taken under Zac Taylor. I think ADG has a chance to be decent, not writing him off yet. Just haven't been wowed yet either.

Wren can have all the talent in the world, but if he can't get on the field, it's kind of pointless talent. (Looking at you Tyler Eifert/Jonah Williams.)

Yeah, I don't know. For a backup I would rather have a low floor high ceiling guy than a low floor low ceiling guy. Neither are likely to be great, but at least you could potentially strike gold with a guy with a high ceiling. I guess that's why people keep chasing that arm talent.

I understand what you're saying about being assembled so late and a pass, but part of the reason they were assembled so late in the process is because of Zac Taylor in the first place so it kind of loses a bit of that excuse for me. Lol. Also, more of that argument loses steam when they didn't just take the guy, but they traded up for him. If you take a guy who is there when you pick, maybe the lack of studying time can be used as an excuse. When you trade up to specifically grab a guy, that excuse is gone because you felt like you needed that guy bad enough to move up, spending extra resources specifically for him. Trading up is one of the few times in the draft when you are absolutely certain they got the guy they wanted. I don't think that was a Mike Brown pick, because Mike Brown loves him those big arm guys (he wanted Ryan Mallett over Dalton), so Ryan Finley is just about as a not-Mike-Brown pick as it gets.