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More Schein Love
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(05-27-2021, 09:55 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Sigh...

1. Dalton ranked 15th or better in passer rating 4 out of 5 years between 2012 and 2016. That's slightly better than average among starters. That's not "average or worse".

2. People always exaggerate the talent we had on offense. 2015 was the best year we had, talent wise, but even that team wasn't the 1999 Rams or even last years Bucs. AJ was a beast of course. Marvin Jones was an excellent #2. Beyond that, how great were they?

Sanu never amounted to much. Eifert was a one year wonder. The run game ranked 23rd in yards per carry. We had some really good weapons, but people talk like it was something epic. It wasn't.

The rest of the time, we had #2 WRs like Jerome Simpson, Armon Binns, Greg Little, Brandon Lafell, etc. Average at best, probably worse. We never had a great run game for the duration of Dalton's tenure. The offense usually fell on him and AJ.

3. Calling Dalton a backup QB (during his prime) is silly. You said yourself he was performing as an average starter. With a bad run game. A backup QB doesn't maintain that level of play and lead a team to the playoffs 5 years in a row.

What other backup level QB has ever accomplished such feats?

Sigh...

I said he would be the perfect back up QB because that would be his ideal role. He was a starter for a decade, but he should not have been. Especially not an unopposed starter. If they drafted players or signed players to compete with him and he beat them out, fair enough but we never even tried.

The Dalton Line is basically exactly how I felt about him. He was the defining mark. If you're better than Dalton, you deserve to be a starting QB. If you're worse, you need to be replaced. He sat in that limbo for his entire career, except for 2016 when people thought he finally "turned the corner," despite all evidence that players don't magically change from an average starter to an elite starter after 6 years in the NFL. Obviously, we were all promptly shown that was not the case in 2016 and beyond.

I see Dalton the same way I see Ryan Fitzpatrick. He'd be an asset to just about any team in the NFL, but you should have a plan other than starting him with no competition for the role.

As for 2015's talent, Eifert, Green, Jones and Sanu was one of the most potent receiving corps in the NFL that year, regardless of what Sanu or Eifert did the following years and their offensive line had Whitworth, Zeitler, Boling and Smith, all of whom were above average or better (with Whitworth being elite) at their position. The offense was absolutely stacked in 2015.

Not to mention the defense that was 2nd in the NFL in points allowed per game.
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