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Rule the Jungle
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(07-19-2021, 11:48 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I mean, the very first sentence of my post acknowledges that a lot of people love the work she's doing and that she must be doing a good job.  And I meant for me calling myself a "Negative Nelly" and a "cynic" to be self-deprecating.  I realize there's plenty of people who enjoy this type of stuff, and I didn't want to put them down.

I will have to disagree somewhat on the we've had winning teams and couldn't fill the stadium part of your post.  For the most part, that isn't true.  I'm pretty sure PBS had like a decade in a row of sellouts in the 2000's.  And if you look at the attendance from 2010 through 2020, there's a lot of years where attendance was 60k plus.  The only years that were not were 2011 (we were coming off a 4-12 season) and 2017 and on.

Fwiw, I totally understand marketing is all part of the gig.  This just reads to be a bit too much.  It's hard for me not to roll my eyes at some of this stuff.  But to each their own, if this fires other people up then that's great.

PBS has an official seating capacity of 65,500, so an average attendance of 60k is still a lot of empty seats.  Also keep in mind that the club was buying large amounts of tickets during the Green-Dalton era to keep games on from being blacked out, so those attendance figures are heavily padded.  For the sake of comparison, the Bengals were bottom 5 in attendance 3 times during the '11-15' and never higher than 24th in that span.  

When you can't fill your stadium with a playoff team, you obviously have issues beyond just the product on the field.  I can't fault them for trying to fix the fan engagement/experience issues while trying to fix the issues on the field.
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Rule the Jungle - pally - 07-19-2021, 10:56 AM
RE: Rule the Jungle - Wes Mantooth - 07-19-2021, 11:10 AM
RE: Rule the Jungle - pally - 07-19-2021, 11:22 AM
RE: Rule the Jungle - Wes Mantooth - 07-19-2021, 11:48 AM
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RE: Rule the Jungle - plantmanky - 07-20-2021, 02:47 PM
RE: Rule the Jungle - Essex Johnson - 07-19-2021, 04:59 PM
RE: Rule the Jungle - Wes Mantooth - 07-19-2021, 05:59 PM
RE: Rule the Jungle - rfaulk34 - 07-19-2021, 05:40 PM
RE: Rule the Jungle - Whatever - 07-20-2021, 12:13 AM
RE: Rule the Jungle - Wes Mantooth - 07-20-2021, 11:23 AM
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RE: Rule the Jungle - Wes Mantooth - 07-26-2021, 09:57 AM
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