07-22-2021, 05:01 PM
(07-22-2021, 03:12 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Lol... because players not being around a decade later than an arbitrary point in their career in the NFL is somehow abnormal/proof? "None of them panned out long term." Lol... this is the NFL man, Not For Long. That list actually did pretty darn well post-Bengals.
Hall played 3 more years and went to the playoffs with the Giants after he left here.
Nelson played 3 more years and went to the playoffs with the Raiders after he left here.
Gresham played 4 more years and won a playoff game with the Cardinals after he left here.
Dunlap just went to Seattle last year and helped jumpstart their flagging pass rush to go to the playoffs.
Whitworth is heading into his 5th year post-Bengals, has a Pro Bowl, and All-Pro, and has gone to a Super bowl with the Rams.
M Jones is in his 6th year post-Bengals and is still a high quality #2 WR. Had 1,110+ yards and led NFL in YPR one year.
Sanu was never a star, but is also in his 6th year post-Bengals and has been to the playoffs 3 times, including the Super Bowl once as a #2 WR.
Dalton took over an injury-devastated Cowboys and finished the season strong (95 QB Rating and 4-3 in weeks 11-17) nearly getting them to the playoffs despite the 28th ranked scoring defense.
Kirkpatrick and Hill were never "stars".
Interesting how suddenly the Bengals had the worst roster heading into 2019. Would like to look back on pre-season predictions made by this board to see if that was the feelings folks had then or if that's just what folks are saying now to justify Taylor going 6-25-1 with a roster that went 13-19 the previous 2 years.
That's my point... It was over for that group as a whole by the end of the 2018 season, whether they were Bengals or not. None of them left while peaking. Zeitler, Sanu, Jones were still strong players, sure. But their run ended around the same time that group of Bengals run did.... 2018.
You turned this into: What guys did after they left the Bengals. That has nothing to do with what I said, which was: What did they do AFTER the 2018 season? NOTHING GREAT.
My point was that the window for success was closed by the end of the 2018 season due to player age and poor drafting and lack of FA success. This occured in the years leading up to the final 2018 failure that ended Marvin's run and leaving a virtually bare cupboard for ZT in 2019.
To think ZT was coming into Cincy with a washed up roster and immeditely winning year 1 is goofy. Same for year 2 w a rookie QB + COVID. Whoever thought that was likely or expected that is a moron..... and, trust me, after reading posts here for years.... I'm not shocked you can find previous posts for 2019 predicting success.
And I listed Dunlap, Whitworth, and Bernard as good players from that group still contributing, but those are just 3 dudes... And Bernard will be a role player in TB barring injury. So, that's 2 guys, 1 of which is an older player coming off of major injury and the other getting half his Bengals pay in Seattle after being cut and resigned because he wasn't worth the cap hit.
