07-27-2021, 12:20 PM
(07-27-2021, 11:20 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You’re original point was we can’t achieve herd immunity because of colds and flu. That’s false. It’s like saying the Bengals can’t win the Super Bowl because the Reds never did. Two different situations. We can achieve herd immunity if enough people get vaccinated like we have done with pretty much every vaccine preventable disease. When is the last time you saw someone with smallpox? Polio? Diphtheria? Measles? Mumps? Rabies? Rubella? Pertussis? Tetanus? Varicella? Etcetera? Personally, as a provider with approximately 4-5K patient encounters a year for about 19 years I’ve seen maybe two cases of mumps and probably 5 cases of chickenpox.
Where did I say “all” doctors recommend the vaccine? That’s rhetorical because obviously I didn’t. You need to learn to pay attention and don’t tell me not talk in false absolutes when I didn’t. I’m sure there are some doctors out there like Stella Emmanuel (who says endometriosis is caused by evil spirits) who may not recommend the vaccine, but the medical providers that adhere to evidence based medicine and the standard of care do. That’s why I didn’t write “all.”
And maybe you can give me a list of the credible, professional medical organizations that recommend against giving the vaccine to people without a contraindication? I’ll wait.
Nope, my point was just like colds and flus we won't have herd immunity. It has already mutated numerous times and an Israeli study shows the Pfizer vaccine is only 39% effective against delta. So I made an analogy that just like we don't have herd immunity from colds and flus that mutate we won't for this either. This is here to stay.
