08-11-2021, 10:51 AM
(08-10-2021, 10:07 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: This information is horribly inaccurate. Show me where there was a PLACEBO control that it only improved mortality by 2.5% or you are comparing against other studies, which you should know has no validity.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0252591
There is the study you can read for yourself.
Regarding the placebo controlled studies, you’re asking for the impossible and this explains why:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/11/inside-the-nihs-controversial-decision-to-stop-its-big-remdesivir-study/
It is unethical to conduct placebo controlled trials with critically ill patients with life threatening conditions by withholding potentially life saving treatments which are considered effective. When the NIH stopped their remdesivir study early and declared it effective it became the standard of care. Although the study didn’t indicate a reduction in mortality, it indicated a reduction in the need for supplemental oxygen or hospitalization by 4 days. Therefore you won’t find placebo controlled studies anymore. You’ll find studies controlled by the standard of care.
But, if you have information indicating otherwise I would like to read it.
Quote: To what monoclonal antibody do you speak of? The kidney failure due to covid patient....I am assuming they had some other issue, like aHUS and the uncontrolled complement attack was precipitated by the infection, but that isn't necessarily from covid, as any infection could ramp up complement.
Usually, bamlanivimab. And off the top of my head that patient was a 53 y/o AAF with well controlled DM2 without insulin use or complication (such as diabetic nephropathy) who was unvaccinated for Covid, but was certain it wasn’t Covid because she tested negative five days prior because she didn’t understand a test performed too soon can’t rule out Covid and is more likely to be negative than positive during the first two days after exposure.
Quote: I will not blow a whistle on health care professionals that are doing what they are being told to do, but I promise you, it has happened in massive numbers. Do you REALLY think no one got the flu last year?
Fraud is a crime. “He told me to do it,” isn’t a defense. If they are knowingly committing fraud they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows.
People did get the flu last year. But, in smaller numbers. I know because I ordered the tests and my local anecdotal experience reflects the national trend. Because more people got the flu shot last year combined with the mitigation strategies to reduce the spread of Covid which in turn reduced the spread of influenza.
Quote:The numbers of vaccinated patients with severe symptoms is very, very small. The vaccines clearly work. If they aren't going to "force it", which is a really tough call, due to the massive financial implications to both our healthcare system and our overall economy, maybe the government should entice with a tax break to the vaccinated. I bet more people would "choose" money than their fear of the vaccine.
It’s true the vaccines are effective and greatly reduce the chance of severe Covid in breakthrough infections. But, they can’t work if you don’t get them. Which is we have one local hospital on total diversion during this latest surge.
