08-18-2021, 09:27 AM
(08-18-2021, 02:05 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: By PFF.
He wasn't regarded the best safety by the All-Pro teams, and he wasn't regarded the best safety by NFL players (top-100).
A couple people were praising AV earlier in the thread. He didn't lead safeties in AV, and there's been a lot of safeties who have had better seasons according to that in the last 2 years than Bates did in 2020.
He's absolutely earned a new contract. Never said he didn't. I said he hasn't earned a top contract. If he wants a $10-12m/yr deal (still top-10 money), by all means, give it to him. I just think if he wants to be paid like an top-3 safety at $15-17m/yr, he's not there yet.
Don't let the fact that he wears a Bengals jersey cloud your objective judgement.
Tagging him twice will be much cheaper regardless of the FA class if he wants Jamal Adams money. It was $10.6m for Safeties in 2021. Add 20% for the second year and that's $12.7m in 2023.
So no, extending him now at his demands of elite S money is not going to be cheaper than ~$23.3m over the next two years. It would have to jump $7-11m to make that true, and it won't.
Exactly. Bates has absolutely ZERO leverage right now. He cant hold out because he loses 50K every day that he does. The Bengals have the franchise tag working in their favor the next two years (which Bates SURELY doesn't like). The Bengals are in a great negotiating position.
If we don't extend Bates this off-season we have basically two more years to try and get the deal done. His value is at the absolute highest right now too, so its not like he's going to demand a significant more amount of money if he somehow plays any better. If anything, his value will decrease.
Sucks for Bates but that's just how it is...
The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy