08-31-2021, 06:45 PM
(08-31-2021, 06:20 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: What about his innate immunity?
You’re using imprecise terms like natural immunity and trying to create confusion with innate and acquired immunity.
So tell me, if there is natural immunity; what’s unnatural immunity?
You don’t get infected with antibodies. Your immune system creates antibodies in response to an antigen.
You have repeatedly implied “natural immunity” is superior to vaccinations. Despite your own source stating otherwise. First, you are referring to acquired immunity from PRIOR infection. Another type of acquired immunity is from vaccinations that provides immunity without getting the disease. Second, your grandfather did have innate immunity, but he did not have acquired immunity from previous infection.
So this so called “natural” immunity you keep pimping does nothing to prevent your first case of Covid. As evidenced by your grandfather.
But, there is something people who have never had Covid can do to prevent getting their first case of Covid. It rhymes with “vaccination.”
The case fatality rate varies greatly by demographics.
We routinely check antibody levels for new hires because a acquired immunity due to past infection (and even vaccines) wanes with time. That’s the basis for every childhood and adult immunization booster.
Oh, so now I can’t even be sure when someone is insulting me?
That’s pretty funny coming from someone who doesn’t know the difference between an antibody and an antigen, but is handing out misinformation on immunity and vaccines.
Lol. I love you too
Well I dont recall ever suggesting immunity from anyone who wasnt infected previously. That wouldnt even make sense. I'm only specifically talking about people who have had covid already and recovered, and how they should have antibodies and protection from another infection based on history. I didnt make any of this stuff up myself though, it actually comes from me being concerned about covid, and delta, and paying attention to what people around the world are discovering with zero bias. There is new data and statistics coming out every single day as this unfolds. I will post a few links and you can tell these doctors what they are pimpin, because I'm only pimpin keeping an open mind, and of course hoping things get better. Honestly if it turns out that natural immunity for the previously infected is better than the vaccines for the previously infected, than this is really super good news and everyone should be very happy about it! Right?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dr-makary-says-natural-immunity-is-more-effective-then-vaccine-immunity/ar-AAMX3sM
https://news.yahoo.com/study-says-natural-immunity-may-033228548.html
A raw study of natural immunity vs vaccine induced immunity data included:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf
Oh and how is Sweden fairing through Delta? They didnt lock down, mask mandate or anything and took the "herd immunity" approach from the start of the entire pandemic.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3405414/mask-free-sweden-zero-daily-covid-deaths-delta/
So I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not handing out any misinformation on immunity and vaccines. I'm simply stating that we dont really know yet and should keep an open mind on all sides as this unfolds. And of course that there is evidence coming out around the globe of natural immunity for the previously infected. We can do this all day long, but I can tell that you are very emotional about all this. So respectfully, I will bow out now and give you the moral victory. You are the champ, and I lose!
