Mike Tomlin is Complete Ass

[JS-Steelerfan]

(11-10-2021, 06:40 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: By demolishing the Reigning Defending Champion their first game of the regular season[remember they were an "Expansion Team":lmao:], winning the NFL championship that same year, and winning multiple Champions thereafter they PROVED that their AAFC championship was worth more.  

No team and I repeat no team in U.S. sports league history has one a Championship their first year as an "expansion team". Thus the dilemma if you don't mention them as an "expansion team" then they are an "established team" and when that "established team" dominates their respected league of sports day one then it is no longer could they have been champion of the league they joined but COULD, for example, the 1946-1950 NFL Champions beaten the AAFC Champions in this case the AAFC Champions were one team the Cleveland Browns which dominated the NFL as soon were on the same playing field. 

Listen, I am not a Browns fan nor am I a Packers fan and I think the Browns uniforms are bad as well as their stadium. Au contraire, I think I might get heat from my Bengal colleagues, I think the Steeler's home uniform is one of the best in the league. That said I am being very objective. If the Browns moved to Mexico City I would not care. I have no allegiance to them, nor do I have allegiance to Green Bay. I hate the Lakers and I have always had. I rooted for the Knicks, Celtics, Pistons in the NBA Championships, and every western conference team they played in the playoffs, but I know they are tied with the Celtics with 17 titles apiece as the most titles in NBA history. 

To say that an AAFC championship is not an NFL championship is not necessarily a statement of the value of the teams that won them.  It is merely a statement of fact.  During their time in the AAFC, the Browns’ championships didn’t mean anything to NFL teams any more than the Packers’ championships meant anything to the Browns.  Comparisons of championships won between teams of different leagues is meaningless because they did not compete on the same platform.  

That doesn’t mean the Browns of that era weren’t a great team.  As you point out, they definitely were.  But the question of whether they would have won NFL championships in their AAFC days is lost to the realm of speculation.  The 2008 Patriots probably would have won the Super Bowl instead of the Steelers had Tom Brady not been lost for the season after the first game.  But he was, and they didn’t.  The Browns probably would have won some NFL championships had they played there in the 40s, but they didn’t.  The game is not played on paper.  

It’s true to say that the Browns lead the Steelers in professional football championships.  But it’s just as true to say that the Steelers have the lead in NFL championships.  And, while it’s reasonable to assume that the Browns had a team capable of competing in the NFL during their AAFC days, it's far more of a stretch to say that the AAFC was as or more competitive than the NFL.  

So, going on the basis of what actually happened (rather than what could have happened), the most relevant number is 6-4, not 8-6.