Three years ago.

[Shake n Blake]

(11-14-2021, 11:06 AM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: Maybe I came into this late. I'm not saying it's Zac's fault. But I don't think it's speculation why Dunlap wanted out. He was moved to 2nd string without being talked to by the coaches ( that is Dunlap's side of the story ) and he went media with it when it happened. Then they bumped him to 3rd string after they picked up Hunt and he posted a pic of the depth chart. His relationship with Lou had completely fallen apart which came to a head when they got into a heated argument at the end of the Cleveland game.

Right, but who knows why he fell out of favor and was arguing with coaches. Could just be that he was a poor fit. Sounds like he didn't like his role, and that's not his fault. That said, it's also not the coach's fault when they get saddled with players who are poor fits and become disgruntled.

This is why teams often move on from certain players when there's a regime change. It's also why teams sweat over whether or not free agents are "the right fit". Well...when you bring in new coaches, sometimes there are players already on the roster who just don't fit.

I recognize this and that's why I'm not mad at anyone that it didn't work out.

Of course, unlike Fred, I don't have a hidden agenda here. I'm not trying to protect a coach. Or former coach.

(11-14-2021, 11:50 AM)fredtoast Wrote: He wanted to play for a competent coach who respected his ability.

How many posts have I seen talking about how even though we were losing Zac's biggest strength was "winning over the players".  Then when he runs off a good productive player it his not his fault?  Can't have it both ways.

Can't assign an argument to me that I didn't make.

Also, you have no clue if that's the real reason why things went south with Dunlap. He may have perceived "disrespect", when it was really just a poor fit, and when he wasn't getting his usual numbers, he beefed with coaches to force his way out.

That's all speculation on my end, but that's my point. This is ALL speculation. I personally think Dunlap and Green were already frustrated after years of losing, and that was just exacerbated by them not liking their new roles.

There's plenty of legit reasons to criticize this staff, but blaming them for a couple of guys not buying in is kinda lame. Again, this is like saying Marv sucked because he couldn't get Takeo and Corey to buy in.