Joey B vs Andy vibe

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(01-01-2022, 03:13 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: Yeah, but the problem with this comparison is that in order to be a straight up measuring stick, then I would have to buy into each supporting cast is equal and, I'm sorry, but that's not even close to being the case. 1st thing that you must consider . . . every snap of Andy Dalton's career prior to 2019 was under the leadership of Mediocre Marvin Lewis, who was a defensive mind. Zac Taylor is a former QB. 

Joe has had much better weapons whereas Dalton had AJ Green and a bunch of #4 WRs for almost his entire career until Boyd 'got it'. ARMON BINNS started 5 games as the #2 WR in the stats you are pulling from.

Also in that time, Dalton was handing off to a running on fumes Ced Benson and a painfully obvious below average Benjarvis Green-Ellis. Compare that to an in his prime Joe Mixon, Giovani Bernard and Samaje Perine. Jermaine Gresham was a physical prototype for what you want in a TE but a total on-field headache. I still think every Bengal fan out there would take a consistent CJ Uzomah and his lack of drive killing penalties vs Gresham's amazing athleticism and boneheaded penalties, which usually, it seemed, came on a converted third down.

Look.

The guy that preceded him was a #1 overall pick
The guy that succeeded him was a #1 overall pick
He's the only Bengal QB to lead the team to 5 consecutive winning seasons and he took over a team that earned the #4 overall pick. The Bengals fans that know how special that is, appreciate that greatly. The Burrow fanboys act like Cincinnati has this great tradition with tremendous starting QBs, Dalton smeared shit all over the throne and the mighty Joe Burrow has risen to take back Cincinnati's rightful place as the center of the QB universe.

I am not a part of some stupid Dalton Gang. I'm just tired of supposed Bengals fans shitting all over a QB that put a pathetic franchise into territory they've never been before. That's one of the few things about this team we can celebrate and for some stupid, ****** up reason, you guys can't prop up an obvious star that doesn't need to be propped up without dumping on his predecessor. I'm just waiting for you all to grow out of this embarrassing stage you're in.

I'm not shitting on him, just pointing out the average time they've spent being good or bad. The main point being, Joe's floor is much higher than Dalton's, which allows his overall numbers to be better--besides the fact he's a better QB (none of that saying that Dalton is bad...just not as good as Joe). 

The highlighted part is a bit of a contradiction, as well as being disingenuous. If Dalton didn't have the same supporting cast--which can be argued legitimately--and he had so many truely bad games, you can't say he "put a pathetic franchise into territory they've never been before". He didn't, the cast (him included) did. 

Dalton was a good QB for the Bengals from 2011-2016 but he was imminently replaceable. Burrow is a guy with the type of talent that's not easily replaceable. 

As for what follows what i highlighted above, maybe you should learn to be less sensitive so that you don't have trouble discerning from a statistical comparison and an attempt to "dump" on someone.