I admit I was wrong and will eat my crow

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(01-02-2022, 11:42 PM)Nately120 Wrote: ZT was in over his head, that is a genuine fact and Burrow and Chase are living proof that he was.  With that being said, a person can learn and grow so maybe he's good now.  I don't have the same fears that he is going to have to be dragged to the promised land as I did before, but also can't imagine anyone looking at the Bengals and wondering if they are awesome because of the players or the coaches, either.

How many wins with the 2019 crew does 2021 ZT get?  More than 2 I guess, but I don't think he'd be awesome enough to get that team to the playoffs.  

But like I said, best case scenario we got a HC who was bad enough to get us Burrow and Chase and then "figured it out" enough to never need to get another high pick again.

No, he wouldn't even make the playoffs with the team his predecessor had failed to get there for three years. I think people forget, and this is in Marvin's defense too, that core group of stars was in their 30s. That team just wasn't good anymore. Atkins? Never signed to play again. AJ Green was out a lot, and played like shit. He's found some footing in AZ, but he's far from what he was. Dalton is a back up and another guy. Dunlap is a backup. DreK? WJIII? John Ross? Between the has beens and never was types, that team was circling the drain. Anyone that didn't see that is looking to criticize just to criticize....