02-08-2022, 05:28 PM
(02-08-2022, 05:06 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: A defensive player doesn't directly result in points either. You still value them. Why? They help you stop teams from scoring points and help you win the field position battle, which DOES lead to more points due to shorter fields needed for you to score. That's exactly what a punter does too.
McPherson can get more 45+ yard FGs than Bullock. But if the offense has to go 5 yards further to get into that range, they will fail to do so more often. That is a reduction in points. That's what you're doing to other teams offenses with a great punter.
I literally posted a listed for you of the last 10 3rd round picks the Bengals have made. It's not a good list.
Yes, I will take a punter who can be the best in the league from Day 1 and then continue to do so for 20 years over a guy who MAY become a starter 3 years from now (but probably won't). The Bengals window is NOW, they are in the Super Bowl. You need to spend all your resources on going to the Super Bowl again in 2022, and then do the same again to go in 2023, not worrying now about adding depth guys who MAY be starters 3 years from now.
Don't ignore the window being open.
Vince Lombardi said the NFL is a game of inches, and inches make championships and you're here shitting on potentially getting an extra 5 yards of field position advantage each punt.
We're going to have to agree to disagree then.
I do understand your stance, I just still wouldn't take a punter that early.
My stance is that the Bengals still need upgrades at certain offensive/defensive positions (both starters and depth), so I would prioritize those first.
OL depth is atrocious. RG starter is bad. Bengals could also need a starting RT.
The team only has 1 TE under contract next year, and it's not a TE that people like.
3 of the team's 5 DTs are set to hit FA, including a starter and another dude who's good enough to be a starter.
DB depth is concerning with Phillips, Apple, Flowers, and Hargreaves all set to hit FA. Plus, people want Waynes let go, which means yet another spot to fill.
Bengals might decide they don't wanna give $10+ mill to a safety, potentially resulting in starting FS to also need addressed.
All the depth WRs are set to hit FA.
People want more explosion from the RB group.
All I'm saying is there are a lot of offensive and defensive positions still to address, and my opinion is those are more important to shore up compared to getting an upgrade at punter.
Also, to McPherson point - Bengals didn't have to spend a 3rd rounder on him. They got him in the 5th, and he was an upgrade. If a team wants to spend a 3rd or 4th on a punter, they can go ahead. I'm willing to try to upgrade that position, but not that early.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
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Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
Sorry for Party Rocking!