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Carson Palmer
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(02-10-2022, 06:42 PM)casear2727 Wrote: I guess I dont understand this as I have clearly stated in almost every post that Katie has shored up most things nowadays?

Also, Carson was asked the question and if you know Pat you understand why.

Everyone is happy with the current changes but I'm not sure that not being embarrassed is the only bar we want to achieve?

I have hope we continue to improve and have faith that we will. I would like for MB to remove himself totally from the team decision wise.  Not 100% sure if the facility issue is him or adding scouts but i'd bet the house it was.  And the fact that he still demands to approve and even choose players in the draft would be comical if it wasnt so sad.  


Yes, Mike wants to keep all facilities around PBS, so that is him. As for the scouting, Zac got them to hire the largest staff the Bengals have ever had. He brought in a few analytics guys, and some more eyes and ears to help scout. Zac seems to be a guy that wants his hands in everything....like the great Bill Parcells said, "if they want me to cook the meal, they oughta at least let me shop for the groceries." From all I've heard, he actually likes being hands on so he makes sure he gets the type of players he wants. The scouting isn't really as big an issue in 2022 is it was 20 years ago. Who knows, it might have even helped them when dealing with the COVID restrictions because they seem to have done REALLY well drafting and targeting FAs during the shutdowns. I've even read articles acknowledging that.

I'm not defending Mike at all, if you remember me from the old board, you'd know how hard I railed against him. I just changed my avatar from a disparaging image about Mike. Hell, it says Son of Paul in my sig, lol. That said, things are changing, and I think Katie, Elizabeth, and even Zac have a lot to do with it. Take the game balls for the fans for example. That shit goes a long way in mending fences.

"Better send those refunds..."

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Carson Palmer - Bengalfan4life27c - 02-10-2022, 12:08 PM
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RE: Carson Palmer - TecmoBengals - 02-10-2022, 12:17 PM
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RE: Carson Palmer - Bengalfan4life27c - 02-10-2022, 12:38 PM
RE: Carson Palmer - ochocincos - 02-10-2022, 12:43 PM
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RE: Carson Palmer - MileHighGrowler - 02-10-2022, 12:59 PM
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RE: Carson Palmer - casear2727 - 02-10-2022, 06:13 PM
RE: Carson Palmer - MileHighGrowler - 02-10-2022, 06:20 PM
RE: Carson Palmer - Wyche'sWarrior - 02-10-2022, 06:26 PM
RE: Carson Palmer - casear2727 - 02-10-2022, 06:45 PM
RE: Carson Palmer - Wyche'sWarrior - 02-10-2022, 07:04 PM
RE: Carson Palmer - casear2727 - 02-10-2022, 06:42 PM
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RE: Carson Palmer - rfaulk34 - 02-10-2022, 07:16 PM
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RE: Carson Palmer - casear2727 - 02-10-2022, 07:33 PM
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