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Carson Palmer
(02-11-2022, 03:34 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: What are people being dishonest about?

- once again he's talking like the Rams are star-studded and the Bengals are pretty devoid of talent. "The Rams are littered with stars, and the Bengals just aren't". "David vs Goliath". The Rams sign players, the Bengals haven't. Really? Do you agree with this take?

- He once again applies his own experience and uses it to project a worst case scenario where the Bengals stay at least $20 million under the cap and don't use resources to fix the line. With it being our only problem, and with Chase on the team, do you think this happens?

If your answer to the above questions is "no" (it should be), then ask yourself why he's saying these things...and why he's doing at the Super Bowl in multiple interviews. It isn't out of concern for the Bengals or Joe Burrow. He has a vendetta. Otherwise, he'd be fair in his critiques.

When you ignore $200 million in free agents signings in a 2 year span, you're not being fair.

I do disagree in a couple areas.

- EVERYONE states that the Rams are littered with stars... because they are.   He has stated over and over how special Joe and Chase are, other than those 2 we dont have any true NFL stars.  We know how special our guys are but even DJ Reader gets no media love.  I think your fandom is clouding this point.  Besides the David and Goliath reference isnt always negative, many many people see us this position.  Keep in mind how much more knowledgeable you are than outsiders.

- There is no way in the world we can blame someone for voicing concerns due to their past experiences. He has much more validated knowledge of how things were, which obviously shapes his opinion. But you are wrong in stating that he "Projected" a worst case scenario. He simply asked the question "Will the Bengals be satisfied with going to this Super Bowl or will they continue to strive for more success" as to spending freely and smartly (which he said), utilizing an example of being satisfied.

I do think/hope they will continue to build the team like they have, but as a fan since the late 70's I would not be shocked if they retreated in some way.  I dont think Carson was out of line whatsoever and in fact he is applying a little pressure to the FO in asking these questions  and NOT projecting what they will do.  I truly hope Joe does put pressure on ownership to continue to want to win as much as he does, in fact there was an article regarding just this topic not long ago.  Carson said he wished he would have handle it better when he asked for that commitment but was lied to, which seems about right since things have changed only recently with Katie.

I dont think he ignored our FA's but I think you believe you over value their stardom more than everyone else outside of us.  I think our fanbase is unaware of the players agreement that demanded a new salary floor on ownership forcing cheap owners to spend on players.  I think that had a lot to do with our FA which may have been a positive for Katie and her team to push MB, we also did a damn good job of getting the right players.

I dont see a vendetta whatsoever, he continuously states in this interview, and others, how much the FANS deserve the success.  These are very fair questions and I see them as a positive for our fanbase and our team.

As to timing, he is in a promotions tour for his product, it is in every interview.  And he does not bring up things out of the blue, he is being asked questions and answering honestly.  I appreciate the honesty, I hope Katie sees this and shows Carson, as well as the team and all of us that their commitment will continue.

I think if you rewatch it in a different frame of mind you may see it in a different way.  Maybe not..
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