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Tag Window Open - Bates Tagged
(02-24-2022, 12:53 PM)Whatever Wrote: If it was that valuable, S's wouldn't have the lowest non-specialist FT #'s in the league.  The NFL shot callers aren't willing to overpay for continuity.  Neither should we.  I mean the Rams drug Weddle out of a 2 year retirement at the end of the year and won the SB.

At the end of the day, Bates admits that he didn't handle his business the right way this year.  The coaches that are advising the FO are obviously not banging their fists on the desk to meet his demands.  The honus is on him to lower his demands if he wants to stay.  

Just seems like a yearly thing around here.  Fan favorite is set to hit FA, board rationalizes as to why the club should FT them and cave to their demands.  Saw it last year with Lawson and the year before with AJ.  

The greatest defenses of the last decade were led by high end safeties, if you are a team built to have a high end defense the safety position is key. In reality, the best defenses this past season outside of maybe Dallas had high end safeties. 

Buffalo - TWO high paid safeties who at the time were both paid top 6 (still top 15) in the league but market has risen since then.
Arizona- Budda Baker is a top 5 paid safety.
Patriots- McCourty has remained a top paid safety many years in NE
Browns- Just paid John Johnson top 10 money
Bears- Paid Eddie Jackson although he has been up and down

You have to be careful about confusing money and importance, that's the same kind of crap Mike Brown used for years to explain why we didn't need to pay guards. The price is always relative to current reality, saying "I don't want to pay 13" dismisses the fact that when others got 11 it was a larger percentage of the cap than what 13 is today. In reality, these things should be looked at the players percentage of total cap when adjusting for the cap increase he could make in the mid 15's and would still just be a top 10 contract relative to the other contracts and how they were as a function of total cap space at the time. Al that said 13-15 now won't be top 5 or maybe even 10 by the time the contract ends, so looking at old contracts that happened pre cap jump for comparison is tough.

As for the "fan" thing, I am telling you very smart football people are saying letting Jesse Bates leave is a massive issue. If there was a backup plan in place that would be one thing, but if you're just going to FA and hoping to save a little money it's probably not going to end well. This isn't Lawson who had huge injury issues, or even WJ3 who has some injury issues, this is one of your own who is a quality player an pretty reliable.
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