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Collins' visit is over
(03-20-2022, 01:43 PM)phil413 Wrote: I get your intention but using high resources doesn't mean you are delivering.  Cincy did a great job in FA and went to the super bowl, that fact doesn't negate the fact that they've been terrible about getting resources to translate to a good line.

You're pitching the idea that Burrow is "realizing" that we are using resources but what does it matter if the product isn't better?  I don't know why we have to either be a homer or a crybaby victim. Why can't we observe that this big money FA you reference (Reiff) is someone everyone wants to upgrade over a year later regardless of why.  

We also realize that they're likely to let those 2 picks that didn't produce (yet) be counted on for a starting LG job.  I don't like it. Heck, I wrote a post about the reality of it in the compromised offensive line post, it's what they do.  If we end up with another aging RT stopgap and our youth doesn't improve, are we to call Burrow a crybaby victim if he chooses to call out the FO?  There's a difference between being negative and being real.  I want these guys to succeed, but even I realize that Cappa was a huge upgrade but they're currently one injury away from having the same line except the marginal upgrade at center. They have resources to use but for some reason they have been bad, not just misfortunate at building a line.  
As a fan, it's been frustrating watching the front office struggle on improving the offense line over the past few years.  It's not like they haven't tried. 

That's part of the frustration, but I also think the distrust the fans have with the front office was compounded by a statement made by I believe Troy Blackburn when they signed Bobby Hart.

The front office made a public statement earlier in the off-season that they were going to give Burrow help up front as I paraphrase. Normally they would not make a such a statement and do a hopspin piece. 


I think Collins is still in play but I also don't think the right tackle was the problem last year. It was interior.  Hopefully the player they draft in the upcoming draft can compete well against Carman who may also have improved.
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Collins' visit is over - jeremydc - 03-19-2022, 09:21 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - jj22 - 03-19-2022, 09:24 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-19-2022, 09:29 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-19-2022, 09:32 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - NUGDUKWE - 03-19-2022, 09:46 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bengals1969 - 03-19-2022, 09:50 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-19-2022, 10:10 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - samhain - 03-19-2022, 10:19 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-19-2022, 10:37 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bengals1969 - 03-20-2022, 07:27 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-20-2022, 08:44 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - pulses - 03-19-2022, 09:32 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nepa - 03-19-2022, 09:39 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - leonardfan40 - 03-19-2022, 09:45 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - grampahol - 03-20-2022, 01:04 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-19-2022, 09:31 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - sandwedge - 03-19-2022, 10:36 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - OSUfan - 03-20-2022, 11:30 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - samhain - 03-20-2022, 11:48 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-20-2022, 01:37 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-20-2022, 02:21 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-20-2022, 02:58 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2022, 03:00 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-20-2022, 03:07 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2022, 03:49 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Soonerpeace - 03-20-2022, 03:09 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Essex Johnson - 03-20-2022, 03:35 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2022, 03:52 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Essex Johnson - 03-20-2022, 03:56 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bengalsboy - 03-20-2022, 05:01 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - TigerStripes - 03-20-2022, 04:26 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - BigPapaKain - 03-20-2022, 06:58 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nepa - 03-19-2022, 09:51 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Esc33 - 03-20-2022, 01:06 PM
Collins' visit is over - MileHighGrowler - 03-19-2022, 09:51 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Dr.Z - 03-19-2022, 09:52 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - ezekiel23 - 03-19-2022, 10:03 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Joelist - 03-19-2022, 10:17 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 10:22 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Au165 - 03-19-2022, 10:23 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-19-2022, 10:24 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 10:27 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-19-2022, 10:27 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-19-2022, 10:29 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - BrownAssClown - 03-19-2022, 10:49 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-19-2022, 10:20 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-19-2022, 10:24 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-19-2022, 10:28 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - BrownAssClown - 03-19-2022, 10:36 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - rfaulk34 - 03-19-2022, 10:45 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-19-2022, 10:46 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Go Cards - 03-20-2022, 04:04 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - BengalsRocker - 03-20-2022, 05:29 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - SHRacerX - 03-20-2022, 11:04 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Sled21 - 03-20-2022, 11:06 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - SHRacerX - 03-20-2022, 11:32 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Interceptor - 03-19-2022, 10:48 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Go Cards - 03-20-2022, 04:01 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - OSUfan - 03-20-2022, 04:13 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-19-2022, 10:21 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-19-2022, 10:28 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-19-2022, 10:30 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-19-2022, 10:33 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-19-2022, 10:37 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 10:38 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-19-2022, 10:39 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-19-2022, 10:41 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 10:42 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Synric - 03-19-2022, 10:56 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 10:42 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-19-2022, 10:43 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 11:13 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 11:33 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Bengalholic - 03-19-2022, 11:35 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 12:46 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 01:05 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 01:16 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 01:37 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Bengalholic - 03-20-2022, 01:53 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-19-2022, 10:41 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-19-2022, 10:44 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 10:46 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-19-2022, 10:47 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Joelist - 03-19-2022, 10:28 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-19-2022, 10:30 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Au165 - 03-19-2022, 10:31 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-19-2022, 10:32 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 10:35 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Joelist - 03-19-2022, 10:44 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Bengalholic - 03-19-2022, 10:48 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Sled21 - 03-19-2022, 11:03 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-19-2022, 11:13 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Bengalbug - 03-19-2022, 11:14 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-19-2022, 11:16 PM
Collins' visit is over - MileHighGrowler - 03-19-2022, 10:30 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-19-2022, 10:33 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - SHRacerX - 03-20-2022, 11:15 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Shake n Blake - 03-19-2022, 11:15 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Bengalbug - 03-19-2022, 11:22 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - psychdoctor - 03-20-2022, 04:50 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Bengalholic - 03-19-2022, 11:26 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Shake n Blake - 03-19-2022, 11:32 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Bengalholic - 03-19-2022, 11:41 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-20-2022, 08:33 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - WeezyBengal - 03-20-2022, 09:56 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Daddy-O - 03-20-2022, 10:10 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 10:57 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2022, 12:55 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 01:34 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - TKUHL - 03-20-2022, 02:04 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - SHRacerX - 03-20-2022, 11:25 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - TKUHL - 03-20-2022, 02:02 AM
Collins' visit is over - Danger Zone - 03-20-2022, 02:56 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - pulses - 03-20-2022, 03:58 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - 2MinutesHate - 03-20-2022, 04:19 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 08:59 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - jeremydc - 03-20-2022, 09:11 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - WeezyBengal - 03-20-2022, 09:52 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Luvnit2 - 03-20-2022, 10:01 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 10:54 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Sled21 - 03-20-2022, 09:53 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Beaker - 03-20-2022, 10:13 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Stewy - 03-20-2022, 10:51 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 10:55 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Essex Johnson - 03-20-2022, 10:59 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Sled21 - 03-20-2022, 11:01 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 11:04 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Essex Johnson - 03-20-2022, 01:24 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Dr.Z - 03-20-2022, 11:18 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - SHRacerX - 03-20-2022, 11:01 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - M.W. - 03-20-2022, 11:10 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - jeremydc - 03-20-2022, 11:12 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bengals1969 - 03-20-2022, 12:07 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Luvnit2 - 03-20-2022, 12:12 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - WVUHomer - 03-20-2022, 12:19 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - TigerStripes - 03-20-2022, 05:08 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Luvnit2 - 03-20-2022, 11:50 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 11:58 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Luvnit2 - 03-20-2022, 12:06 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Soonerpeace - 03-20-2022, 12:28 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - WeezyBengal - 03-20-2022, 12:39 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 01:04 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 01:07 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 01:12 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - StoneTheCrow - 03-20-2022, 01:17 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 01:27 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - StoneTheCrow - 03-20-2022, 01:36 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 02:02 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - StoneTheCrow - 03-20-2022, 02:18 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - KillerGoose - 03-20-2022, 02:31 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Savagehenry54 - 03-20-2022, 02:45 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - KillerGoose - 03-20-2022, 02:48 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2022, 02:50 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 03:18 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - KillerGoose - 03-20-2022, 03:20 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Savagehenry54 - 03-21-2022, 04:40 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-21-2022, 05:07 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Shake n Blake - 03-21-2022, 06:38 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-21-2022, 11:29 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - KillerGoose - 03-21-2022, 06:13 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Dr.Z - 03-21-2022, 06:33 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Dr.Z - 03-21-2022, 06:44 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Savagehenry54 - 03-23-2022, 05:53 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - StoneTheCrow - 03-20-2022, 07:29 PM
Collins' visit is over - The D.O.Z. - 03-20-2022, 12:17 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-20-2022, 12:19 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - WVUHomer - 03-20-2022, 12:24 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-20-2022, 12:25 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - WVUHomer - 03-20-2022, 12:31 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bengals1969 - 03-20-2022, 12:30 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - WVUHomer - 03-20-2022, 12:34 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Bengalbug - 03-20-2022, 12:29 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 12:47 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - StoneTheCrow - 03-20-2022, 01:03 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 01:10 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 01:10 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - phil413 - 03-20-2022, 01:43 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - psychdoctor - 03-20-2022, 02:28 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 12:53 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 01:00 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 01:23 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 01:28 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Gdale_Bengal - 03-20-2022, 01:48 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - phil413 - 03-20-2022, 01:49 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - jj22 - 03-20-2022, 02:13 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - BuildTheWall - 03-20-2022, 02:34 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 02:21 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - thompson19osu - 03-20-2022, 02:30 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - psychdoctor - 03-20-2022, 02:34 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - thompson19osu - 03-20-2022, 02:43 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - psychdoctor - 03-20-2022, 02:52 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Go Cards - 03-20-2022, 04:19 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - leonardfan40 - 03-20-2022, 02:46 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 02:56 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - leonardfan40 - 03-20-2022, 03:07 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - CloeHokie - 03-20-2022, 03:04 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - reuben.ahmed - 03-20-2022, 03:09 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - KillerGoose - 03-20-2022, 03:10 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - psychdoctor - 03-20-2022, 03:14 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - fredtoast - 03-20-2022, 03:21 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - psychdoctor - 03-20-2022, 03:24 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - pdub2005 - 03-20-2022, 04:45 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2022, 04:55 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - bfine32 - 03-20-2022, 04:37 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 03:21 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - psychdoctor - 03-20-2022, 04:04 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 04:06 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - psychdoctor - 03-20-2022, 04:23 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Tony - 03-20-2022, 04:05 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - WeezyBengal - 03-20-2022, 04:13 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Go Cards - 03-20-2022, 04:25 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Rotobeast - 03-20-2022, 05:26 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Au165 - 03-20-2022, 05:27 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - phil413 - 03-20-2022, 05:36 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Au165 - 03-20-2022, 05:36 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 05:29 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Au165 - 03-20-2022, 05:33 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - PlayadLc - 03-20-2022, 05:36 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Chin Curtains - 03-20-2022, 05:37 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - ZeGerman - 03-20-2022, 05:38 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 05:37 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - samhain - 03-20-2022, 05:39 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - BobJones4980 - 03-20-2022, 05:39 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-20-2022, 05:42 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - PlayadLc - 03-20-2022, 05:40 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 05:42 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-20-2022, 05:42 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - phil413 - 03-20-2022, 05:44 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - PlayadLc - 03-20-2022, 05:44 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-20-2022, 05:47 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - rfaulk34 - 03-20-2022, 06:59 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - OSUfan - 03-20-2022, 07:08 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-20-2022, 07:10 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - THE PISTONS - 03-20-2022, 07:32 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Savagehenry54 - 03-21-2022, 04:51 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 05:45 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-20-2022, 05:50 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - pulses - 03-20-2022, 06:02 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-20-2022, 06:03 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Au165 - 03-20-2022, 06:23 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Nicomo Cosca - 03-20-2022, 06:07 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Squintz - 03-21-2022, 11:16 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Frank Booth - 03-22-2022, 12:02 AM
RE: Collins' visit is over - rfaulk34 - 03-20-2022, 06:57 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - pdub2005 - 03-20-2022, 06:21 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Beaker - 03-20-2022, 06:59 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - OSUfan - 03-20-2022, 07:04 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - jfkbengals - 03-20-2022, 05:45 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Ell Prez - 03-20-2022, 06:00 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - jeremydc - 03-20-2022, 06:00 PM
RE: Collins' visit is over - Essex Bengal - 03-20-2022, 06:34 PM

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