04-07-2022, 04:28 PM
(04-07-2022, 04:12 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I guess my mentality has always been that I want and expect someone I take in Rd 1 to be a starter within a year.
I look to take someone in Rd 2 who I expect to be a starter within 2 years.
I'm not spending a 1st round pick on a guard and then potentially have Carman or the newly-drafted 1st rounder ride the bench as a backup.
I'd instead rather put that 1st rounder toward a position with a starter who is set to become a FA next year or at least an opportunity to be part of a heavy rotation.
DL always rotates, thus resulting in immediate contributions early in career.
CB will have Apple hitting FA after this season, plus he's not really even great.
Safety has two really good starters in place, but both are set to hit FA next year. I'd like to keep both of them though beyond this year (at the right cost). There's only two safeties I feel comfortable taking at 31 though, and that's Hamilton (no chance he falls outside Top 10) and Hill.
Brisker doesn't really seem like the ideal Bates replacement unless they change up how they use the FS. Cine, while he has speed, didn't look to be much of a pass defender in college. He can hit hard though. I don't see Pitre as a Bates replacement either. Maybe one of those guys can replace Bell, but Bell shouldn't command nearly what Bates will in FA.
I hear you but if he is a bust he is a bust. Waiting around to watch it won't help us win. Get more talent. Let them compete. When you make a mistake its better to move on. If Carman can turn it around then great! We have more depth and guys that can move around and play for injuries. I think Green/Zion are better and would start over Carman. If that involves hurting someone's draft pride or ego I don't care.
Taking a CB at 31 will not make him a starter. Especially considering who will be there.
We do not need a rotational Nose Tackle. The top 2 DTs will not be there at 31.
Pitre is a nickel corner at best and a hybrid CB. We have that already. Get that guy off your draft board. Mike Hilton is already a better version of this guy
I agree on S for sure. But again not sure the talent will match the pick at 31. Yeah no way Hamilton falls. He is going top 10 for sure. But there are Safties in the later rounds that can grow and develop. I like Joeseph in round 2 or a couple other guys in rounds 3-5.
I definitely agree on all of your points. But my main point is that those positions you mention just do not line up with our pick at 31. Who knows how it will pan out though. Maybe a top DT or CB falls. Anything can happen. All I am saying is that the drafts I am doing none of those CBs are there and the DTs are gone aside from a NT. We would have to reach into round 2 to get a CB. And almost evey time I do the mock draft Green or Zion is there. If a top CB is there I would have a harder time picking. And would not mind either one. I just do not want to reach for a 2nd-3rd round CB or a DT that is not a 3 tech. Our rotation player we lost is still a FA! (We could sign him again) And he was a 3 tech not a NT. We do need one of those but I just cant take the 64th ranked player at 31 when there are better ranked players at LG and we have a good chance of having a need there
