04-10-2022, 09:10 PM
(04-10-2022, 07:52 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Man, you are just grossly overrating how bad he was. What the hell do you have against the guy? Lol this is so bizarre. In 2018, he allowed a passer rating of 74 (36th in the league) on passes that came his way. This was on 118 targets. QBs had a completion percentage of 48% when throwing at him. In 2019, that passer rating was 100.9 (173rd out of 263). There is no rating data for 2017 and 2016.
If you're a PFF fan, from 2016 to 2020 his average grade was 61.74. This past season, he graded out at 60.9. The dude has never been anywhere near the worst CB in the league. Then you say Jimmy Smith is bad? I'm fairly convinced you're just goofing around for jokes. Jimmy Smith is a straight up good corner. Lol. In 2018, Smith allowed a passer rating of 73. In 2019, he allowed a passer rating of 67. In 2020, he allowed a passer rating of 57. Jimmy Smith has been bad in the sense of health. He hasn't played a full season in years. He also hasn't allowed a touchdown pass since 2018.
Grossly overrating how bad he was? He was so bad the Giants traded him barely half way through his rookie contract. He was so bad the Saints wanted nothing to do with him when his contract expired. He was so bad the Panthers didn't even want to keep him on the roster in 2020 and cut him early. Quote all the stats you want, but if he was good he wouldn't be on his 4th team in 6 or 7 years.
Here's the best way I can describe it. Eli Apple is a tremendous athlete...there's no dispute there. However, if there was a stat for bonehead plays, then he'd be in contention for leading the league (my opinion only).
Yes Eli makes plays every now and then just like every other NFL player. But his bonehead plays far exceed the plays we praise.
Nobody wants to talk about the TD Eli gave up before he made that game saving tackle vs the Chiefs. The entire team is in man coverage and Apple is 5 yards deep in the endzone while his man is in motion 10 yards away from him. Never even had a chance to make a play because he was so far behind him. Moments like that make me think "WTF Eli?"
"Eli Apple made that tackle that saved the game!" Absolutely....he made a wonderful arm tackle on a poorly ran route. Let's give him a medal for learning from his mistake the previous TD and actually staying with his man in motion this time around.
I know what we get with Eli....we get a budget player that will show flashes of greatness he never achieved but usually play mediocre at best. His contract last year reflected that. This year it shows the Bengals are hoping he plays better than mediocre...hopefully he does. I honestly want him to play great. I don't expect it though.
As for Jimmy Smith, I guess you just would've had to watch him play. Or ask Ravens fans? He was wonderfully awful when he was a starter. I don't subscribe to PFF anymore but I suggest (if you do) then go back and look at ratings from like 2010-2015. Jimmy Smith was a champion at being terrible in PFF ratings...however I think PFF was harder on him than anyone else ever was. I'm not sure any of the data points you cited now matter since he's not a starter anymore.
