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Zac's use of shotgun.
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(04-14-2022, 01:51 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Interesting stats on Bengals' offense from shotgun formation compared to other.  First of all, everyone understands "yards per play".

ypp shotgun... 6.8 (#1 in league)
ypp other....... 4.7 (22)
difference...... 2.1 (#1 in favor of shotgun)

FootballOutsiders DVOA formula weighs gains based on down and distance.  A 3 yard gain on 3rd and 2 is much more valuable than on 2nd and 10.

DVOA shotgun... 12th
DVOA other....... 25th
Difference.........  1st

It seems pretty clear that we were a MUCH better offense out of the shotgun.  

So why we were 18th in the league in percentage of plays ran out of the shotgun formation?

(04-14-2022, 02:05 AM)fredtoast Wrote: We only ran 62.8% of our plays from the shotgun.  5 teams used it more than 80% of the time.  Based on the numbers above if the Bengals had used the shotgun 80% of the time their offense would have been 5th in yards instead of 13th.

In real life it would not be nearly that simple.  But when your offense has the biggest difference in the league in shotgun over other it seems like we should have been higher than 18th in percentage of shotgun plays.

This actually really surprises me. Nice thread Fred.

Burrow loves running pass plays out of the Shotgun. I would guess the answer must be that we ran the ball better with him
under Center and Play Action can be more dangerous under Center. Our OL was so bad that the empty sets that Burrow loves
would get him sacked and hurried often. Need to have Mixon or one of the backs there with him in these sets to prevent this
as just sending an extra blitzer that Burrow cannot see can get him at times.

I thought it was the opposite and we ran too much out of the Shotgun, I guess I was wrong.

I know we are damn good at passing out of the Shotgun, I just think the running game can suffer in this set at times.

With improved OL play everything should be better though.
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Zac's use of shotgun. - fredtoast - 04-14-2022, 01:51 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - fredtoast - 04-14-2022, 02:05 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Yogo - 04-14-2022, 03:06 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - SHRacerX - 04-14-2022, 07:54 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - fredtoast - 04-14-2022, 09:08 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Soonerpeace - 04-14-2022, 01:24 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - KillerGoose - 04-14-2022, 02:26 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - SHRacerX - 04-19-2022, 08:28 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - KillerGoose - 04-19-2022, 08:57 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - SHRacerX - 04-19-2022, 09:08 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - KillerGoose - 04-19-2022, 09:11 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - WeezyBengal - 04-19-2022, 09:31 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - KillerGoose - 04-19-2022, 09:42 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Dr.Z - 04-19-2022, 10:02 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - bengalfan74 - 04-20-2022, 01:43 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Gdale_Bengal - 04-14-2022, 08:16 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - fredtoast - 04-14-2022, 09:07 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Gdale_Bengal - 04-14-2022, 10:05 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - BigPapaKain - 04-14-2022, 04:43 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - ochocincos - 04-14-2022, 10:18 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - 2MinutesHate - 04-14-2022, 11:16 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - ochocincos - 04-14-2022, 11:20 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - KillerGoose - 04-14-2022, 11:29 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - ochocincos - 04-14-2022, 12:02 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Tony - 04-14-2022, 01:03 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - WeezyBengal - 04-19-2022, 09:29 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Tony - 04-19-2022, 11:32 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - ezekiel23 - 04-14-2022, 01:11 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 04-14-2022, 02:16 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Sled21 - 04-14-2022, 02:32 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - SladeX - 04-15-2022, 07:08 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - KillerGoose - 04-15-2022, 07:33 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - fredtoast - 04-15-2022, 10:39 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Housh - 04-15-2022, 11:08 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - hugh jasse - 04-15-2022, 11:32 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - KillerGoose - 04-15-2022, 11:51 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Soonerpeace - 04-15-2022, 03:53 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Soonerpeace - 04-15-2022, 04:43 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Destro - 04-16-2022, 11:00 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Tomkat - 04-21-2022, 11:54 AM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - bengalfan74 - 04-21-2022, 12:58 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Soonerpeace - 04-21-2022, 02:15 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - KillerGoose - 04-21-2022, 03:23 PM
RE: Zac's use of shotgun. - Soonerpeace - 04-21-2022, 10:09 PM

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