04-15-2022, 02:20 PM
(04-14-2022, 10:30 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I just read a pff article before the 2021 season and it said he’s one of the most sure handed tight ends in the league with only 3 drops in 150 targets
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-tight-end-rankings-2021-nfl-season
Number 27
Thanks Frank, I thought so.
(04-15-2022, 09:42 AM)ochocincos Wrote: According to https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HursHa00.htm he had 4 drops in 2020.
His catch percentage was only 63% that year.
Matt Ryan's completion percentage that year was 65%, which was just below Burrow's 65.3% that year.
Ryan has had as high as a 69.4% completion back in 2018.
(04-15-2022, 09:47 AM)ochocincos Wrote: Aside from his drops in 2020, I don't believe he's had any. At least according to pro football reference.
This is less about him being sure-handed though, and more about his ability to get yards.
In college, his average YPR was 12.8.
In the NFL, his average YPR is 10.4.
He's just not in the same caliber as guys like Andrews (13.2 NFL), Pitts (15.1), or even OJ Howard (14.6).
He's going to be a steady, reliable guy who will get solid production, but to think he's going to magically ascend into the upper echelon of receiving TEs all because he's with the Bengals now is just wishful thinking. There's always a chance it happens, but it's a low probability.
Well we don't need Hurst to be Andrews or Pitts. We just need him to be a better Receiver than Uzo and an okay blocker.
I think he will be what we need.
(04-15-2022, 10:52 AM)fredtoast Wrote: A TEs YPR depends more on how he is used than how great of an athlete he is. Obviously the guys who are better athletes are used as deeper receivers more often, but no TE playing with Chase, Higgins, and Boyd is going to have a big YPR or a ton of targets either.
I think Hurst will probably have better numbers than CJ did last year simply because of "inflation", i.e. the Bengals will throw for about 500 more yards this season. But he is not going to break out into an 800+ yd TE or average over 13 per catch as long as our big 3 WRs are healthy.
Agree, just high expectations to think all 3 of our big 3 WR's will stay healthy the entire season.
That is why I could see Hurst getting around 800 yards and quite a few TD's. Better route runner and one thing we really
need to improve on on Offense is in the Red Zone and I think Hurst can really help us in this aspect.
(04-15-2022, 01:12 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Is he a top 5 TE like Andrews, Kelcie, and Kittle. But he is not paid like a top 15 TE either?
How did ur bad OL impact our TE's to go out on routes versus having to stay in and block? I know Atlanta was pass happy one year but did they have an above average pass blocking OL or worse?
All of that plays into use of a TE on number of routes ran
I think Uz was limited by our poor OL and had to block versus just releasing on a route
I too agree that the poor OL limited a lot of what Uzo was able to do, same with Sample who had to block a lot.
