05-20-2022, 05:18 PM
(05-19-2022, 08:26 PM)J24 Wrote: He's was a top 10 Safety as a rookie and he was the #1 Safety in 2020. Plus he is a young proven player with a ton of upside. You're not signing him for just a playoff run.
As for the agent thing it's just business no need to get butt hurt over it.
Not butt hurt over anything.
Just don't understand a player just listening to his agent and not looking at his own play objectively when looking at a contract.
I am sure whatever we offered him was more than fair.
(05-20-2022, 08:27 AM)casear2727 Wrote: If you are going off of PFF grades you cannot dismiss him going from #1 to #37 this season either. I dont believe Bates is the 37th best safety, but he sure as hell isnt #1.
His lackluster play during the regular season is the cause for the current contract standoff IMO.
For sure.
(05-20-2022, 10:41 AM)Whatever Wrote: If we're talking PFF grades, Bates' career averages a 71.8/season. If you included his 90 postseason grade as a full season, that still only takes the average up to 75.5. Good, but not elite.
Unfortunately with Bates, it's not even a typical upwards curve that you see with most guys on rookie deals. It's a rollercoaster. There is a lot of risk in paying him at an elite level, as in his down years, he's a liability to the defense and you can't have huge chunks of cap space tied up in a guy that's a liability.
Yeah, Bates is really inconsistent which also takes him out of elite money talk IMO.
