Bruce Jenner to Caitlyn Jenner

[*bfine32*]

(06-05-2015, 09:46 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: It's quite clear. I'm not sure how you are not sure what I am asking. Are you saying that she stopped being a women when she believed she might be identifying as the wrong gender? Because you are suggesting that you disagree with my suggestion that the moment Caitlyn told us she's a women is when we should start identifying her as a woman. 

her... Not me. I said when she said it is when we should start referring to her as it. How is that me forcing a gender identification if I am saying that the individual determines it?

Oh, I think I've found the disconnect: you mean man here?

If that is what you are asking then to answer that question: No. I think she was and is a man and deserves the medals.

It's just that other suggest she has been a woman her whole life, not just the last year of her 65 on earth (we agree that those folks are wrong). I'm pretty sure she has even suggested she has identified herself as a woman for quite some time.

I just didn't realize you consider the transformation to be when they stated publicly.  What about those that are not in the public eye or never make a formal announcement?