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(08-10-2022, 07:31 PM)Au165 Wrote: Isn’t your sampling biased? You basically said 50% of one guys starts are against the best teams in the league (playoffs/SB)? The other issue is you get smoothing with Hart because of that larger sample size and when he did play awful opponents.

Not going to act like PFF is the end all be all but Prince last year was basically the same guy Hart was his career here. He had a slight uptick the last year but close enough to say…they were basically the same dude.

Which goes back to my point from the start that almost all back ups essentially look about equally awful. In a league desperate for good o line play, if they weren’t awful they wouldn’t be back ups.

I don't think it's biased.

There's no way to do a 100% comparison between two players in different years when they've played against different players.
But it was a fair way I could think of to do a comparison without spending hours upon hours watching snap after snap of both players (which I would never do anyway because that's boring AF).

Hart's worst season was 2018.
651 pass block snaps (1.65x Prince's)
10 sacks (2x Prince's)
4 hits (0.57x Prince's)
39 pressures (1.08x Prince's)

So the sacks-per-snap is higher, but the pressures and hits per snap are still lower.

Maybe we just need to give Prince more time, but I'd still prefer to have a better RT as the backup for a potential postseason run, based on what I saw of him last year.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.

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Collins is back - jj22 - 08-10-2022, 11:16 AM
RE: Collins is back - Au165 - 08-10-2022, 11:31 AM
RE: Collins is back - SunsetBengal - 08-10-2022, 11:36 AM
RE: Collins is back - bengalfan74 - 08-10-2022, 11:43 AM
RE: Collins is back - PhilHos - 08-10-2022, 11:44 AM
RE: Collins is back - Go Cards - 08-10-2022, 11:48 AM
RE: Collins is back - Synric - 08-10-2022, 12:01 PM
RE: Collins is back - tms - 08-10-2022, 12:19 PM
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RE: Collins is back - ochocincos - 08-10-2022, 12:55 PM
RE: Collins is back - fredtoast - 08-10-2022, 12:35 PM
RE: Collins is back - ochocincos - 08-10-2022, 12:54 PM
RE: Collins is back - WeezyBengal - 08-10-2022, 01:17 PM
RE: Collins is back - Frank Booth - 08-10-2022, 01:20 PM
RE: Collins is back - Go Cards - 08-10-2022, 01:27 PM
RE: Collins is back - ochocincos - 08-10-2022, 02:07 PM
RE: Collins is back - Essex Johnson - 08-10-2022, 04:36 PM
RE: Collins is back - ochocincos - 08-10-2022, 04:50 PM
RE: Collins is back - Au165 - 08-10-2022, 05:12 PM
RE: Collins is back - ochocincos - 08-10-2022, 05:15 PM
RE: Collins is back - Au165 - 08-10-2022, 05:28 PM
RE: Collins is back - samhain - 08-10-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: Collins is back - Frank Booth - 08-10-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: Collins is back - ochocincos - 08-10-2022, 06:45 PM
RE: Collins is back - Au165 - 08-10-2022, 07:31 PM
RE: Collins is back - ochocincos - 08-11-2022, 09:58 AM
RE: Collins is back - tms - 08-10-2022, 10:32 PM
RE: Collins is back - MTBengalsFan - 08-11-2022, 10:14 AM
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RE: Collins is back - SHRacerX - 08-12-2022, 08:40 AM
RE: Collins is back - Joelist - 08-12-2022, 11:36 AM
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RE: Collins is back - Frank Booth - 08-15-2022, 06:11 PM
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RE: Collins is back - Frank Booth - 08-15-2022, 06:24 PM
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RE: Collins is back - Frank Booth - 08-15-2022, 06:29 PM
RE: Collins is back - Nicomo Cosca - 08-15-2022, 06:38 PM
RE: Collins is back - Synric - 08-15-2022, 06:40 PM
RE: Collins is back - Frank Booth - 08-15-2022, 06:43 PM
RE: Collins is back - ochocincos - 08-15-2022, 06:36 PM
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