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(08-10-2022, 07:31 PM)Au165 Wrote: Isn’t your sampling biased? You basically said 50% of one guys starts are against the best teams in the league (playoffs/SB)? The other issue is you get smoothing with Hart because of that larger sample size and when he did play awful opponents.

Not going to act like PFF is the end all be all but Prince last year was basically the same guy Hart was his career here. He had a slight uptick the last year but close enough to say…they were basically the same dude.

Which goes back to my point from the start that almost all back ups essentially look about equally awful. In a league desperate for good o line play, if they weren’t awful they wouldn’t be back ups.

Yeah, Prince is still young too, he might improve. That was some great experience he got on a SuperBowl run and he had 
Adeniji on roller skates playing right next to him. I will give him a pass and hope he becomes a great backup for us.

(08-10-2022, 10:32 PM)tms Wrote: Yeah, I see what you're saying. But I wouldn't discount the fact that Prince and HA both started a Super Bowl. And it wasn't five years ago or something; it was literally this past Super Bowl. That's rare and other teams would kill for backups with that experience. Or maybe not kill lol, but you get what I mean. It's nothing to shake a stick at. These guys are still on their rookie deals, they were thrown to the wolves with no veteran leadership to show them the way and moving parts all around them... I wouldn't just write them off on account of their PFF scores.


It was trial by fire but now they're mature beyond their years. They may have "failed" on the first go but they were never put in a position to succeed. What's more, there's nothing the league can throw at them that they haven't already seen. I think they can grow to become fine backups. Heck, they may already be that. Their nerves are battle-tested. They can step in for anyone like grizzled veterans. That's a total luxury. 

Nice post, so true you couldn't get more valuable experience on a SB run like that. We might be better off than we think.

Especially with Carman impressing in TC at LG where the one main question was at on the starting OL besides guys banged 
up a little. It sounds like Alex and La'el would be playing if these were actually meaningful games. The starters do need to 
get snaps together to gel before the season but the backups getting lots of snaps helps the backups tons and that is the 
biggest question on this team, depth in case an injury happens to our starters.
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Collins is back - jj22 - 08-10-2022, 11:16 AM
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