Dan Orlusky … shotgun vs under center… bengals run game

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(10-05-2022, 11:39 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: This is an interesting watch. Statistically, everything about an offense runs better from the gun. Since 2010, QBs have been 3x as efficient from shotgun than under center by EPA. We're talking about a comparison that simply isn't even close. For RBs, the difference is even more noticeable with shotgun runs averaging nearly double what under center runs average, 5.42 vs. 2.87. 

Offenses are more productive from the shotgun than under center, this isn't an argument. Even from a points perspective, shotgun plays have averaged 0.22 points per play whereas under center has averaged 0.14, which is a 56% difference. This conversation reminds me of an old Carmelo vs. Lebron debate I saw from years ago. Despite Lebron being more productive and scoring more points, the argument was Carmelo was a better scoring threat than Lebron because he "had a deeper bag" I.E. had more moves in his skillset. Listening to this discussion, they talk about how many things are available to an offense in each scenario, but one scenario is just vastly more productive than the other. That extra availability doesn't really seem to help the offense in any measurable way, at least from a productivity standpoint. 

This could be true, but to me this conversation in terms of the Bengals is talking more about their tendencies. That's kind of mutually exclusive from the shotgun vs. under center debate. The issue they are having is kind of a one off thing. 

I agree though, offenses can be more productive under shotgun (which you have shown) but when you start to show tendencies and defenses know what is coming based on formation...that's when you have a problem.