Players are turning on Zac finally

[KillerGoose]

(10-11-2022, 04:24 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Put in EPA but guess it came up overall but they also sit 12th in overall passing and only 16 yards better than 21st. Sure they do much analyzing if its the exact same ranking as without their #'s factored in ? 

Let's just go by the Bengals verses the Bengals instead of lumping them in with the Titans and such.

2021 Bengals ..........................2022 bengals

Mixon 4.1 yds per carry..................Mixon 3.1

QBR ......108.......................................  82
PPG........27...........................................22
INTPG....0.82........................................1.0
TD'sPG......2.........................................1.8
PYDPG.....271........................................263
sacked 51 times..................on pace for 61 sacks

Looks to me like all measurable's climb with better rushing and the QB is more experienced this year opposed to last. 

Also the Bengals only scored less than 22 points in 4 games last year and this year are only averaging 22 points per game and have scored less than 20 three times already

Could care less about if we wager or not, but am game if you want to and you can set the parameters as long as they appear fair to both sides. 
Can be monetary, sig, or friendly I told you so or nothing at all. Tired of this argument

This isn't an informative way to look at it. You're comparing a complete dataset to an incomplete dataset. Go week by week in 2021 and see how those metrics were compiled and effected by the run game in that matchup. Something like this...



Now, it all depends on how you want to break this up. The best way to find a relationship is just to run a regression and be done with it. This data will tell you there is a weak relationship between rating and yards per carry. What is funny is that the relationship is actually negative. This means that as the yards per carry became worse, the passer rating went up. Now, the relationship is weak, so it isn't very informative and we also know correlation does not equal causation. It's just meaningless - they don't affect each other. We can also just break the data into groups. For instance...

Passer rating when Bengals averaged >= 4 yards per carry - 102.4
Passer rating when Bengals averaged < 4 yards per carry - 108.2

Or...

Passer rating when Bengals averaged >= 3.8 yards per carry - 100.57
Passer rating when Bengals averaged < 3.8 yards per carry - 112.47

Or...

Passer rating when Bengals averaged >= 3.6 yards per carry - 101.49
Passer rating when Bengals averaged < 3.6 yards per carry - 115.02

Again, we know that this isn't the case. If you do the same thing with this season, you get a result that looks similar. The lower the YPC, the higher the passer rating. They just don't matter to each other. A good run game forces a defense to play you differently, but it doesn't make your QB play any better. This is true across two-plus decades worth of data. It just is what it is.