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With Trey out move to a 3-4
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(12-17-2022, 03:22 PM)BIGDADDYFROMCINCINNATI Wrote: Well no kidding HS doesn't apply to NFl defenses. So if you're in a 3-4 or a 3-5-3 and you want to bounce to a 50 set, dropping your OLBs down into an 8 or 9 tech isn't what you'd do?  I was trying to get Jake's reasoning.  You're correct in that we put another DT(Toupou) out there in the 5-2, and I agree with you that Sam and Trey are DEs. 

For the record,  never said ADG was on the same level as Von Miller.  I said, (as an experiment until Trey gets healthy) we should try to use ADG in a Von Milller type 3-4 UNDER role to give Brady a different look.  My reasoning is  b/c a pressure,  gap control defense isn't going to bother Tom much IMO.   Fournette isn't to beat us rushing the ball; however, Tom Brady and Chris Godwin could be very problematic given how thin we are at CB. 

As stated by another poster, ADG is the only LB we have that could remotely play this role b/c all of our LBs are more 40 and 50 set types.  We just don't have a player that's a 3-4 OLB and that's why we talk things out on here. 

High School doesn't work because size doesn't matter at those ages and size is really the issue in this discussion.

I like Jake a lot but totally disagree with him on this.

A 3-4 UNDER is simply a 3-4 defense with one OLB playing edge to stop the RUN.  

A pass rushing OLB in 3-4 is NOT a 220 pounder - especially one with a half a sack in 3 years.  As you stated we don't have any 3-4 OLB on the roster because we NEVER run a 3-4 defense.

I get your idea of having ADG in the game with Trey out but who are you taking off the field?  We need all 5 DBs vs Brady, and I don't see how ADG simply replaces Trey as he cannot collapse the 5 gap with an inline TE, nor is he going to contain the edge very well, especially with a pulling lineman?
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RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - PhilHos - 12-14-2022, 10:53 AM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - Sled21 - 12-14-2022, 10:55 AM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - CJD - 12-14-2022, 10:56 AM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - Fullrock - 12-14-2022, 10:56 AM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - EatonFan - 12-14-2022, 10:57 AM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - SHRacerX - 12-14-2022, 11:20 AM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - Au165 - 12-14-2022, 12:31 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - Sled21 - 12-14-2022, 06:43 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - J24 - 12-14-2022, 09:28 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - bfine32 - 12-14-2022, 09:49 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - bfine32 - 12-14-2022, 11:00 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - J24 - 12-16-2022, 08:09 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - J24 - 12-17-2022, 01:29 AM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - Roland - 12-17-2022, 03:09 AM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - casear2727 - 12-17-2022, 04:32 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - TheFan - 12-20-2022, 04:51 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - J24 - 12-17-2022, 05:12 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - J24 - 12-16-2022, 08:03 PM
RE: With Trey out move to a 3-4 - Emeritus - 12-16-2022, 08:33 PM

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