Congrats Tomlin

[BengalYankee]

(01-13-2023, 03:17 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You are aware that Tomlin was not the Steelers HC in 2006?  Or is your point that Ben is capable of having a losing season,  just like Peyton Manning and Drew Brees (and Tom Brady this year)?  Also, using his 0-2 year is just silly, do you really think the Steelers don't do better than 8-8 that year (their actual record) if Ben doesn't get hurt?  Because that would be an even sillier argument.




Why are you getting upset because someone has a different opinion that you do?


I never said Ben was the only reason Tomlin's never had a losing season.  What I did say, correctly I might add, is that Tomlin had a franchise QB on his team for his entire career sans this year.  What other coach can say that?  Bill Belichick's first season in NE they went 5-11.  The next year Tom Brady played under center and they didn't have a losing season from that point until 2020, the first year without Brady since 2001.  Is this just a coincidence?  You've already acknowledged that BB is an elite coach, but he's had two losing seasons out of three since Brady left town.

A good coach can overcome a lot, but bad QB play is not one of them.  A bad coach can screw up a lot, but having a franchise QB can really bail them out (see Barry Switzer among others).  The NFL is a QB driven league, having a HoF caliber signal caller can cover up a lot of blemishes.  Tomlin was fortunate that Pickett worked out as well as he has, thus far.  He's not be HoF caliber (yet and he never may be), but I think he's demonstrated that he is a good QB at the NFL level.  Next year will really tell us where he's at and going to be.

You can make a lot of arguments about why Tomlin is better than I think he is, but this argument, that having a HoF QB didn't make a major difference for him and his streak, is a very poor one.  If you can put your anger aside and counter with a better argument I'd be happy to hear it.

A much better counter view then your last post.
Yes, I am aware of the 2006 year with Cowher.
My point is that not even Ben had a non-losing season.  
We all have opinions and which team or player was the greatest.

I know this is a Smack forum, but I was expecting the post you just sent to refute my point of Tomlin. I was not expecting lamest smack .....

Obviously, this thread would  be exported from The Jungle forum. Nobody goes into the AFC North chat. So, this is the only viable place to place this topic.
My favorite non-Bengal Head Coaches are Jerry Glanville and Buddy Ryan. Neither of them were Great, some would say neither of them were good HC's. 

You are back on my respect list with your good respectable counter argue post.

But, I still Hate the Squealers/Stealers.