12-20-2015, 06:54 AM
(12-20-2015, 03:16 AM)Rhinocero23 Wrote: Hmmm...you really don't believe that arguement do you? Lol.
We can name a ton of Great QB's who paved the way for lesser
talent to benefit from. Dalton has taken advantage of his situation. Good for him,
he is not a QB that elevates the talent around him. He falters under the big stage and against top teams. He has more wins, stats, and accolades thus far than Newton too...guess he is better than Cam also?
The stats that some around here are so impressed with are being surpassed rather quickly
by the young QB's who also started from day one. Dalton, Manning, and Flacco are the only QB's to start thier first 81 games. That is a great testament to their ability to stay in the game. Tough, smart, and game savvy describes all three of them. Those "in their first 5 year" stats are not that impressive because ALL the other QB's did not play as many games. You know why no one here talks about those "in their first year", "2nd year", "3rd year" and "4th year stats"anymore...because most of them now belong to guys named Wilson, Luck, Kaepernick and Tannehill. Soon to belong to guys named Carr, Mariota and Winston. The game has changed and the stats are not really comps. For instance when Palmer broke the franchise record for TD's he was in the Top of the league for TD passes. When Dalton did it he was not in the top 12. See how that works?
Palmer can and has changed the culture of teams...the Bengals included. This team had not been in the playoffs for 15 years prior to Palmer. When Dalton got here they had been in the Playoffs Two out of 5 years. Winning the division twice and sweeping it once. Huge difference...but you know this.
If Dalton can get his job back then maybe he can continue on with this great season he was having. He was having a great season. I am one who believes AJM will have very comparable stats to Dalton's the rest of this year...that's because this team does not need a great QB.
How many real NFL talent evaluators would say that Dalton is comparable to Palmer? None.
Granted they are diffent ages so if that is going to frame your arguement that is the strongest stance to a weak point. If it is only age then you would say the same about Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, Ken Anderson, Boomer and any other previous QB who no longer youth on thier side. Even at 36 Palmer is out playing Dalton. He can do things Dalton can not...period. Prime to prime comparisons are not even a remote question.
Cue the "quitter" and "pre-Madonna" arguments...lol
Dalton has never had a losing season here. Can't say that for Palmer. Palmer also has no playoff wins, but nobody brings that up.