03-09-2023, 06:49 PM
(03-09-2023, 06:29 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Could say the same thing about PA, he was good with proven talent, but couldn't coach up his players. The great players were polished
when they got here, Braham, Whit, Bobbie Williams, Willie, Steinbach, Levi Jones etc.
We all remember when he was starting Nasty Nate Livings, Stacy Andrews, Gutcheck, drafting Ogbuehi and Fisher who really hurt the
entire team late in the Marv years...
As much as I am not impressed with what Pollack has done so far I like him better than the Piano Man.
PA took over as OL coach in 1994.
Here are his OL drafted:
1994 - Trent Pollard (Rd 5), Jerry Reynolds (Rd 6)
1995 - Melvin Tuten (Rd 3), Ryan Grigson (Rd 6)
1996 - Willie Anderson (Rd 1), Ken Blackman (Rd 3), Rod Jones (Rd 7)
1997 - Rod Payne (Rd 3)
1998 - Mike Goff (Rd 3)
1999 - Tony Coats (Rd 7)
2000 - none
2001 - Victor Leyva (Rd 5)
2002 - Levi Jones (Rd 1)
2003 - Eric Steinbach (Rd 2), Scott Kooistra (Rd 7)
2004 - Stacy Andrews (Rd 4)
2005 - Ghiaciuc (Rd 4), Adam Kieft (Rd 5)
2006 - Whitworth (Rd 2)
2007 - Dan Santucci (Rd 7)
2008 - Anthony Collins (Rd 4)
2009 - Andre Smith (Rd 1), Jonathan Luigs (Rd 4)
2010 - Otis Hudson (Rd 5), Reggie Stephens (Rd 7)
2011 - Boling (Rd 4)
2012 - Zeitler (Rd 1)
2013 - Tanner Hawkinson (Rd 5), Reid Fragel (Rd 7), TJ Johnson (Rd 7)
2014 - Bodine (Rd 4)
2015 - Ogbuehi (Rd 1), Fisher (Rd 2)
2016 - Westerman (Rd 5)
2017 - JJ Dielman (Rd 5)
Out of that list, 8 drafted OL that played well for Bengals (or maybe just 7? I didn't really remember Mike Goff's performance as a Bengal)
So Alexander definitely was able to identify some good talent, but that was more his first 15-20 years with the team. The last 5 years (2013-2017) really sank the OL and is a big reason why they moved on from him. It was thought he didn't evolve with the game.
It's also worth noting out of all the guys PA actually hit on, he hit on every 1st round OL selected until Ogbuehi, and he hit on every 2nd rounder until Fisher.
No luck whatsoever on guys taken Rds 5-7.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
Sorry for Party Rocking!
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
Sorry for Party Rocking!