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(03-17-2023, 11:14 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Regarding the eye test. 

PFFs highest rated Bengals (amongst the starters): Burrow (90.8), Reader (87.3), Hendrickson (85.0), Chase (83.3), Pratt (80.6). 

PFFs five lowest rated starters: Volson (51.6), Apple (52.9), Taylor-Britt (56.1), Collins (57.9), J. Williams (61.2).  

That tracks exactly with me. If they are garbage, it sure is an amazing coincidence they picked out our best & worst players, and weakest areas (OL & CB) so accurately. 

You're not including postseason in your grades. Mixon graded higher than Pratt, including postseason. Do you agree with that? Mixon graded higher than Tee Higgins. Pratt graded better than Wilson, do you also agree with that? Do you think Pratt was a better starter than Tee? Mixon would have been one of our top five highest graded players for the entire season. Also, are we counting CTB as a starter now? He was a back-up thrust into a starting role due to injury. We probably need to change our criteria there. I'm going to be surprised if you continue to assert that the rankings track "exactly".  I also think that you failed to understand my overall point. PFF grades are worthless because they don't really provide any extra value to what the average fan can tell you - a fan who doesn't know the first thing about what he is talking about.

You also have the issue of looking at the dataset as a whole. Let's look at QB grades. Here are the top 10 QBs by PFF grades...

1. Burrow
2. Mahomes
3. Allen
4. Hurts
5. Lamar Jackson
6. Jacoby Brissett
7. Andy Dalton
8. Tua
9. Geno Smith
10. Kirk Cousins

Is that also an amazing coincidence for you? Here, I'll even give you this - maybe I should slightly alter my stance on PFF. It isn't their fault that people use their grades the way that they do. PFF grades can provide useful insight into "maybe this player isn't quite who I thought they were". However, that isn't how they are used. People use them as a way of saying "XYZ is objectively good/not good because they have a bad grade, it must be true." I'm trying to be reasonable here.