03-17-2023, 12:36 PM
(03-17-2023, 12:22 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: 1) You cannot include post-season, the sample size is too small. That is just silly.
2) Comparing guys on the same team is always gonna be more useful than comparing guys from different teams. Some divisions have crap QBs (NFC South). If you play them 6 times a year, your DBs should grade higher. OTs playing vs Watt, Garrett, Hendrickson, & Baltimore in our division have tougher sledding.
3) PFF is not biblical or anything. It is not without criticism or context. But there is a lot if ground between saying it is useless and mindlessly following it. It provides a nice starting point forcdiscussion and dies a pretty good job identifying players at both ends of the spectrum. The middle is cloudier.
Lol what? It's more data that is relevant to the topic at hand - the 2022 season. I'm not sure what your thought process is here but all we are doing is adding the post-season games into our dataset of regular season games. They were played, why wouldn't you count them? We aren't looking solely at post-season games. Altogether, it is a dataset of 20-ish games. Saying this, of course, gets you out of having to backtrack on your "tracks perfectly" statement.
The final thing I will say is that to point three. People don't use them that way. Many fans will largely use them as biblical. "Eli Apple posted a 52 grade, I told you he was terrible." Well, he didn't play as bad as everyone is thinking. The deep TD he gave up was because of a crosser that took the attention of the middle field safety which allowed the WR to find space down the seam which he wasn't responsible for. Eli didn't so much get "burned" as the offense drew up a great play/the safety was washed out of the play.
That's just an example of a conversation that PFF grades are involved in. We can agree to disagree. I don't care to derail this thread with a PFF argument more than we already have. If you like them, feel free to look at them. I think they are worthless.
