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Jonah Williams Requests Trade
(03-24-2023, 03:54 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Agree and have posted the same thing about Carman. The Bengals just may be happy with the O-line presently other than depth. 

If we draft a RT and Carman beats him out it becomes a wasted pick in a "all in" year. The Bengals have used a lot of resources trying to fix OL which I applaud, and Collins is still here as well. 

With S's and TE's thinned so much and RB and CB needed as well, just not sure they go OL. Yet that's the coaches call and if they do I will not complain because I want Joe protected. Yet Carman looked good at OT and believe Washington helps protect Joe too. . 

I agree with everything except the Safety part.
I think we got Hill and Scott as the starters with Thomas and Anderson as the backups. That may not be great, but it should be solid.
TE, on the other hand, is atrocious. The only dude of any possible chance is Asiasi, but he needs to show he can block if he wants to see the field.
When dealing with the likes of these juggernaut passing offenses like the Chiefs, Bills, Chargers, Eagles, and Cowboys, the Bengals will need a healthy stable of CBs. If Awuzie or CTB goes down, it's Jalen Davis or Allan George. Not sure how comfortable I'd be with that. An early draft pick at CB or re-signing Apple would make me feel better about the CBs.
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Jonah wants to be traded! - Tomcat - 03-17-2023, 11:43 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - CJD - 03-17-2023, 05:22 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - pulses - 03-17-2023, 06:20 PM
Jonah Williams Requests Trade - ah5 - 03-17-2023, 07:36 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - ah5 - 03-17-2023, 07:41 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - pulses - 03-17-2023, 08:58 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-17-2023, 09:02 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-18-2023, 10:04 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-19-2023, 03:10 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-19-2023, 10:06 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-19-2023, 11:46 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Destro - 03-17-2023, 10:07 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Housh - 03-18-2023, 12:53 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - ah5 - 03-17-2023, 11:22 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - ah5 - 03-17-2023, 11:24 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-18-2023, 10:12 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - ah5 - 03-17-2023, 11:24 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - jj22 - 03-18-2023, 12:18 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - pally - 03-18-2023, 12:51 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-18-2023, 10:11 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - jason - 03-18-2023, 01:00 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - pulses - 03-18-2023, 01:28 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - wanga - 03-18-2023, 01:47 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Sled21 - 03-18-2023, 10:08 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-18-2023, 10:08 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Beaker - 03-18-2023, 09:04 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - M.W. - 03-18-2023, 12:11 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Sled21 - 03-18-2023, 02:01 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-18-2023, 03:25 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - pulses - 03-18-2023, 11:31 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Sled21 - 03-19-2023, 09:34 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - M.W. - 03-19-2023, 10:14 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-19-2023, 10:16 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Sled21 - 03-19-2023, 10:21 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-19-2023, 11:21 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-19-2023, 10:54 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-19-2023, 11:22 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-19-2023, 11:10 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-19-2023, 11:24 AM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-19-2023, 11:51 AM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - TheFan - 03-19-2023, 05:38 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - TheFan - 03-19-2023, 06:01 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - TheFan - 03-19-2023, 07:38 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-19-2023, 08:17 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - TheFan - 03-19-2023, 08:53 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-19-2023, 08:33 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - ah5 - 03-19-2023, 09:26 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Garrus - 03-20-2023, 12:19 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - SladeX - 03-20-2023, 03:33 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Sled21 - 03-21-2023, 08:24 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-26-2023, 11:14 AM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-20-2023, 04:36 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Au165 - 03-20-2023, 06:22 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Stewy - 03-20-2023, 06:07 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-20-2023, 06:37 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - SladeX - 03-21-2023, 10:15 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - jason - 03-21-2023, 11:09 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-22-2023, 10:01 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-22-2023, 11:11 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - CJD - 03-22-2023, 02:19 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-22-2023, 11:20 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-22-2023, 11:50 AM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Stewy - 03-22-2023, 12:49 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Nepa - 03-22-2023, 03:51 PM
Jonah Williams Requests Trade - BenZoo2 - 03-22-2023, 02:11 PM
Jonah Williams Requests Trade - BenZoo2 - 03-22-2023, 03:10 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-25-2023, 08:13 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-25-2023, 12:40 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Housh - 04-05-2023, 11:15 AM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-25-2023, 03:16 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-25-2023, 07:19 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - jason - 03-28-2023, 03:07 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-27-2023, 03:31 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-27-2023, 09:01 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Nepa - 03-27-2023, 09:15 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-28-2023, 02:24 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Sled21 - 03-28-2023, 04:13 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Sled21 - 04-07-2023, 08:46 AM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - wanga - 04-11-2023, 04:13 AM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - jason - 05-03-2023, 07:00 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 05-18-2023, 08:22 AM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - TheFan - 03-17-2023, 01:24 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Sled21 - 03-17-2023, 03:18 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - PDub80 - 03-17-2023, 12:08 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-17-2023, 12:10 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - OSUfan - 03-17-2023, 12:14 PM
RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - jj22 - 03-17-2023, 12:16 PM
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RE: Jonah Williams Requests Trade - Synric - 03-17-2023, 12:45 PM
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RE: Jonah wants to be traded! - Nepa - 03-17-2023, 11:52 AM
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